Author Topic: Baking/Dishwashing (Read 5260 times)

cappy718 · « **on:** January 16, 2011, 11:56:03 AM »

I've heard of both of these methods to get the oil out of a ball. I did a search and didnt really find much on the topic on here. I talked to a local pro shop and they have the official baking machine which they'd be glad to do for me for 25 bucks and another 25 for a resurface. At this point, I am over 1/2 way to what I paid for the ball I want this done to. Not because its an el-cheapo ball, rather its one of the Wild Things that I got when they discontinued it and the price dropped like a rock. But I've rolled the crap out of this thing and it's not rolling like it used to. The backend pop is just missing. I loved the way it rolled, I just want it to do it again. I've done the hot water bath to it already and didnt get much difference. Any experience/advice yall could offer would be much appreciated.

~Scott

"Celebrate we will, cuz life is short but sweet for certain"

Edited by cappy718 on 1/16/2011 at 8:56 PM

Locke · « **Reply #1 on:** January 16, 2011, 07:59:46 PM »

Hot water bath is the safest. But there are a few things you need to do for it. the water needs to be about 120 degrees and you are going to want to put dish soap in it. Also, pull it out every 15-20 minutes and wipe it off. Baking is really dangerous for the ball if you are not careful.

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BrianCRX90 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 16, 2011, 08:28:55 PM »

that's why unless I have to do something major to a ball I don't go into proshops wasting money like that. And btw that is such a scam and a joke.

Getting out the oil out of the ball besides using cleaners which will only get out some of the very surface of the ball is placing the ball in hot but not scorching water. I've done it for over 10 years and never had a problem but have had great results.

You also don't need to resurface or polish the ball unless you really feel the need to. Get a pack of abarlon pads or fine sandpaper and some polish and do it in a sink.

MI 2 AZ · « **Reply #3 on:** January 16, 2011, 09:21:58 PM »

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I favor the hot water method myself. I have an old Blue Warlock that I know I have been using since 2002 and I don't see much loss of reaction from it with regular hot water cleaning. I am sure that it has lost some reaction, but I can't tell - it still hooks good enough for me.

Scott, if your backend reaction is not as good as it used to be, it might need to be resurfaced. Find out what the finish OOB was on your ball, and then read about the RotoGrip method of resurfacing in the FAQ link in my sig below.

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cappy718 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 16, 2011, 11:02:38 PM »

Yeah, my feeling on the baking thing for 25 bucks was a waste of my money. I wish I had a ball spinner for the resurfacing but I guess as long as I'm consistent I can continually tweak it till I'm satisfied. I just looked on ebay for some abralon pads. I can do this! I dont need to waste my money on that stuff at a pro shop!

As far as oil extraction. My ball baths were a little different. I used either some dish soap or purple power diluted in the hot water, in my wifes chili pot...she loves me for that...lol! After I soaked it for 20 min or so I'd pull it out and wipe it down with alcohol to get all the excess off. With my Wild Thing my rag turned red...I know the coverstock is red, but should my rag turn red like that? It didnt do that on any other ball I've done this to. Or should I not be using the alcohol? Is it too harsh? Its the 91% stuff. Anyhow, I never put it back in a second time. After reading what you guys are saying and the links you're pointing me to, that may be where I went wrong. Tomorrow, all my balls are getting a bath again...along with my dogs...hahaha!

Any more info that you guys have to help me with this is much appreciated. I love this place for the info...and the great people that offer it up!

~Scott

"Celebrate we will, cuz life is short but sweet for certain"

notsohotshot · « **Reply #5 on:** January 17, 2011, 12:42:41 AM »

The best method I have found short of paying the pro shop is in the dishwasher. First you need to sand the ball down to approx. 500 grit then put in dishwasher and add a little Dawn. Put it on the normal cycle but TURN OFF THE DRY CYCLE!!!! When it is finished then slowly sand back up to the grit you want and apply polish. It should roll close to it did when it was new. It worked well for me..

completebowler · « **Reply #6 on:** January 17, 2011, 01:47:28 AM »

I have brought 100's of balls back to life using various different methods discussed here. The best way to do it is the process explained in your op (rejuvenator and resurface). The pro shop operator you went to is trying to provide you THE BEST SERVICE.

If the price is too steep then talk to the guy. Discuss other options, multiple balls, or ask what he might be willing to throw in with a new purchase.

The equipment he has in his shop needed to complete this process for you costs close to $2000. Add in his lease, abralon, and the couple hours of time it takes to do it right and you are only paying him about $10 bucks an hour.

Small price to pay to have something done right if you ask me.

ALL STAR BOWLING & TROPHY
LANGAN'S ALL STAR LANES
WALLED LAKE MI

Edited by completebowler on 1/17/2011 at 2:49 AM

jbshepherds · « **Reply #7 on:** January 17, 2011, 07:52:01 AM »

Along with Regular cleaning before and after use i about every 2 months dishwash my balls. This make a bid difference in the life of the balls. I have never noticied a loss of power or hook from any of the balls. This is the method i recomend most.

cappy718 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 17, 2011, 08:07:56 AM »

Oh I realize and understand this and wasn't meaning to come of as he was trying to rip me off. Its the best he can offer. I just want to try some DIY remedies first and see what happens. I'm still going to do business this with guy on a new ball. I just don't think I'm going to have the rejuvenating services done...

completebowler wrote on 1/17/2011 2:47 AM: I have brought 100's of balls back to life using various different methods discussed here. The best way to do it is the process explained in your op (rejuvenator and resurface). The pro shop operator you went to is trying to provide you THE BEST SERVICE.

If the price is too steep then talk to the guy. Discuss other options, multiple balls, or ask what he might be willing to throw in with a new purchase.

The equipment he has in his shop needed to complete this process for you costs close to $2000. Add in his lease, abralon, and the couple hours of time it takes to do it right and you are only paying him about $10 bucks an hour.

Small price to pay to have something done right if you ask me.

ALL STAR BOWLING & TROPHY
LANGAN'S ALL STAR LANES
WALLED LAKE MI

Edited by completebowler on 1/17/2011 at 2:49 AM

~Scott

"Celebrate we will, cuz life is short but sweet for certain"

JohnP · « **Reply #9 on:** January 17, 2011, 08:33:55 AM »

DO NOT heat a ball in a home oven. It's too dangerous - you can melt the ball or even catch it on fire. The best combination is resurface and revivor oven. At home, either dishwasher (no heat dry cycle) or hot water bath, max of 130 degrees. -- JohnP

Edited by JohnP on 1/18/2011 at 10:12 AM

cappy718 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 17, 2011, 08:48:32 AM »

LOL...in this house im renting, the dishwasher doesnt have a setting to turn off the dry heat. If I do that one, I'm just going to have to sit there and pull it out when it gets to that point... Think I'm just going to do the bath again with hotter water this time. I dont have any abralon pads right now, but I think I'm going to get some wet sandpaper so I can get the process going on a few of my others to practice before I get to the ball i really want it to be good on...

~Scott

"Celebrate we will, cuz life is short but sweet for certain"

Brickguy221 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 17, 2011, 09:03:30 AM »

JohnP wrote on 1/17/2011 9:33 AM:
DO NOT heat a ball in a home oven. It's too dangerous - you can melt the ball or even catch it on fire. The best combination is resurface and rejuvenator oven. At home, either dishwasher (no heat dry cycle) or hot water bath, max of 130 degrees. -- JohnP

I agree with don't heat the abll in a home oven...a regular oven that is.

However I have found it safe to heat a ball in a convection oven as it has a fan that circulates the low heat. I have done it for a few years with no problem. Since moving to town almost 2 years ago, the house we bought doesn't have a convection oven like our country home did, so I am now unable to heat my balls in the oven.

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Locke · « **Reply #12 on:** January 17, 2011, 09:55:22 AM »

I have found that you don't need to use sand paper or anything to "open up the pores". Heat is heat and no matter how high gloss of a polish the oil will still make it out of the ball. I just see this as added steps and a waste of ball surface. I have an oven that I can actually bake a ball safely in so I do that and when I put a polished ball in there the oil runs right out like a sanded ball. I mean honestly, if the ball would need to be sanded to get the oil out, how did it get in there in the first place?

cappy718 wrote on 1/17/2011 9:48 AM:LOL...in this house im renting, the dishwasher doesnt have a setting to turn off the dry heat. If I do that one, I'm just going to have to sit there and pull it out when it gets to that point... Think I'm just going to do the bath again with hotter water this time. I dont have any abralon pads right now, but I think I'm going to get some wet sandpaper so I can get the process going on a few of my others to practice before I get to the ball i really want it to be good on...

~Scott
"Celebrate we will, cuz life is short but sweet for certain"

Always be sincere, even when you don't mean it

cappy718 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 17, 2011, 01:25:21 PM »

Well, I just did my old NVS. Took it to 500 grit before the bath. Scrubbed it with a brush in the bath, then too it to 2000. It's got a nice sheen to it. I got my Wild Thing soaking. Didnt alter the surface before I soaked it and it's got a ton of lines of oil on it right now. I think I'm going to do a 500/2000 on it as well. This is just with wet sand paper. I'll get my abralon in this week to tweak it as needed. I know that OOB the Wild Thing is at 4000 and I can change that later if needed. Thanks again for all the help/pointers. It takes a while doing this w/o a ball spinner, that's for sure! LOL!

~Scott

"Celebrate we will, cuz life is short but sweet for certain"

JohnnyRocket · « **Reply #14 on:** January 17, 2011, 02:10:07 PM »

http://www.bowlingballexchange.com/showthread.php?t=32866

check this link out also.

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