Do certified coaches get irked by non certified Joe coaching others at the center?

I'm not going to lie, though I am not a cert coach, I think I know a little more than these paper coaches. Not saying all are not up to par, I'm just stating my opinion and many will agree with me. There are many of you who are better coaches than some of these cert ones.

I asked this question because one day several years ago, I was working with a coach and that coach asked me who have I seen in the past. Well, I mentioned some names and that coach was a little irked. Also, there's a local cert coach in one of the bowling centers I go to to help some bowlers. Well, that coach sends this vibe towards me like I was invading his property. In fact, two or three bowlers have seen this coach and sought me after seeing him. I understand he needs to make money, but these bowlers call me and I meet them where they want to. Even if it's at his house to bowl.

Figjam:
I've learned from some of the great coaches, some are HOF/legends in the sport, and some "paperless" coaches who just have the eye for the game - also famus. (thanks to all of them) I used my experience from working with these coaches to help those who asked me for help - for free of course, they donate whatever, like a NIB. (thanks again WHO) I may not have reached my goal of 215-225 ave, but I'm happy for those that I've helped did so. They started at 190'ish and now are 215 to 224 average. Also, I get a lot of joy from newbies who start at 160 and finish the season 10 to 20 sticks more. I asked not to get paid, because many have helped me over the years and it's my little way of giving back. (I have coaching/teaching experience from other sports)

I have seen this same thing on some online forums. Some of the certified coaches jump on bowlers for offering their advice. There aren't many certified coaches in my area so I have never worked with one. Most of the "coaching" I have had has been from other bowlers with more experience than me and from the pro shop owners.

We have a local guy who has his level 1 or 2 (doesn't matter) certificate. He works with the juniors and while I appreciate someone taking the time to help the younger bowlers, he still doesn't know diddly squat about bowling.

And he isn't the only one I have seen in that category either. One of the best coaches I have had lessons from, Ron Clifton, doesn't have any certification. Dude just knows bowling.

Agree with some of the points being made. You don't need a piece of paper if you have a great eye for the game. Central Ohio has a lot of good high school programs and several centers with well run youth programs. School coaches and parents here in our area seem to take the certified coaches a little more seriously when you work with their kids especially at the high school level. And we do have some high school coaches who take group instruction with a couple of the more well known certified coaches in our area.

With that being said though, I am a bronze certified and plan on attending the silver here at my local center in July. I am a sucker for knowledge and the person teaching the class is very well qualified. I just took a lesson with this gentleman and his use of Ubersense is something that I would like to incorporate into my coaching strategies.

We have a couple of silver certified in our area who wouldn't know the first thing about teaching a two-hander, helping a kid straighten out the armswing plane, or even coming up with a strategy to play a lane condition based on what the practice session is telling them. These are items that good coaches have to be able to apply in theory and practicality to help their students out. Some folks are good at concepts but bad at applying them without much practice. The one guy took the class because he was really into bowling at the time. I do not know if he even still bowls or not because it has been a couple of years since I seen him.

I personally have had lessons from the highest level of coaching (a couple of different golds like Jasnau, Hoppe, Hatfield, and Marquez) to a player in our area with no certification that had a great set of eyes when he wanted to coach bowlers. I try to incorporate what they teach me into my own coaching when I get the chance.

I might have rambled on and off topic, but the certification is a mixed bag for me. I am glad I did it and renewed it. I also think that high school coaches who are serious about their programs need to take something. Level I or II, the NFHS Fundamentals of Coaching class, anything that helps how to deal with athletes of all skill and sizes.

I have both Bronze and Level 1 certification.
Does this make me a better coach then you? No
What it gets me is insurance and easy of mind to parents that I've had a background check and have no issues in that regard.
I never charge for lessons, as the 1st man stated, it's a way of giving back, for all those that have helped me.
It only takes one allocation from a student, to ruin your name and a ton of money, (yours) to prove your innocent of that charge. 
I'm sure your local center would welcome you all on Saturday mornings, there's a lot of young people and very few coach's.
Thanks
Bob

Bob, I'd love to help the youth that's for sure. I was asked before by the manager of the center to help with the youth, but I took a year off from bowling after my daughter was born. Also, the way they do things here is different when I was a kid. Maybe I was mistaken, but it seemed this way.....

A kid will be bowling and 3 to 5 different coaches will approach the kid and help the kid. I had one, or two at the most, when I bowled youth. I would see someone tell the kid to push away this way, and few minutes later, another way for example. It seems confusing to the kids. Only a few will have the same person helping them. The rest gets whom ever is walking up and down the center.

I got in trouble a few yrs back, having a 'discussion' with a bronze level individual stating in my opinion that every bronze level coach I encountered should be taking lessons not giving them (:
And I was also told I'm certifiable but didn't need to be certified

WHO! RW just keep it up bro..

JustRico, thanks for your help too. Just came from practice and did some target practice, that swing change really helped a lot. Getting ready for my return to the lanes