Author Topic: Easy Slide Should Be Banned (Read 10914 times)

jbuzz31 · « **on:** October 25, 2008, 01:53:11 AM »

i think bowlers should be banned from putting easy slide on there shoes. while it may help them it creates hell for others. whenever i bowl against a team that has a bowler(s) that puts easy slide on there shoe, it inevitably ends up on the approach ,and at some point in the night mid-way through my approach ill slip on the offending powder and nearly fall on my face. same thing with other people ive seen. Last night one of the people on my team actually ended up falling and twisting there ankle because of said easy slide on the lane. i mean seriously people, its a safety issue. Am i the only one who sees this? anyways
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charlest · « **Reply #16 on:** October 25, 2008, 02:16:05 PM »

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Charlest your post brings a question to mind, would you say that independant houses are maintained better than those of the franchise variety.

I really can't make a decisive statement on that.

On the 3 independents that I go to regularly, all used to be fairly good overall, given how expensive such operations are when you don't have huge corporate backing (AMF & Brunswick). 2 of the 3 are fairly old, with repsect to furbishings and equipment but you saw the effort they were making. Recently one has gone downhill with respect to the oil pattern/amount - very inconsistent and averages have dropped since the start of the season.

On the whole, with only these 3 as examples for me, versus several AMF and Brunswick, I would lean towards agreeing with it. In general, the independents are there to make money but all are relative to the AMF/Brunswick corporate giants) bowler friendly (all 3 I know are owned BY bowlers). The AMF and Brunswick houses are there ONLY to make money and (league) bowlers are at the very bottom of their business consideration list.
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Edited on 10/25/2008 2:18 PM

charlest · « **Reply #17 on:** October 25, 2008, 02:17:29 PM »

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Speaking of Brunswick Zone Carolier, I was there recently for a couple of JBTs and after the first shot or two I had no problems with the approaches.

tenpin477,

You were very lucky. Beleive me when I say that one would have to consider your experience is not typical.
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tenpin477 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 25, 2008, 02:36:13 PM »

If you say so lol.

Any house that is willing to cater to a youth tournament beginning at 2 AM Saturday and Sunday morning, and put out an oil pattern that was actually kind of challenging is fine by me lol.

Both instances the approaches were fine, and I didn't hear any grumbling from the people around me either.

sdbowler · « **Reply #19 on:** October 25, 2008, 02:49:15 PM »

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Clean approaches??? Ever smell approach cleaner???

Smash49

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dechrist · « **Reply #20 on:** October 25, 2008, 02:53:11 PM »

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i wish people who have trouble sliding would invest in a pair of top quality bowling shoes......it would make bowling better for everyone.

Fair enough. I have a pair of Dynoroos sport ultras, and I'm sticking at the line on a humid night despite the fact that I keep my soles clean and I also use the slickest sliding soles available.

If I can't use a small amount of EZ slide on my slide sole, and work it in (shoe off and in my hand). So what's a bowler to do, blow out a knee?

ucumin2 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 25, 2008, 03:39:48 PM »

Well ez slide sucks in my eyes. We have seen more and more use here in Illinois because of are bs no smoking law. Best easy fix if u can't slide was little ash but now people can't. Many people out here you see appling ez slide ever time before they bowl and its crap. All it takes is 1 moron using it and approachs are like an ice skating rink. Should be banned along with bowls who think bowling is a tea hour. When its ur turn 2 bowl then bowl. Ran into all this last night. Dragging and using ez slide.

charlest · « **Reply #22 on:** October 25, 2008, 04:05:26 PM »

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Well ez slide sucks in my eyes. We have seen more and more use here in Illinois because of are bs no smoking law. Best easy fix if u can't slide was little ash but now people can't. Many people out here you see appling ez slide ever time before they bowl and its crap. All it takes is 1 moron using it and approachs are like an ice skating rink. Should be banned along with bowls who think bowling is a tea hour. When its ur turn 2 bowl then bowl. Ran into all this last night. Dragging and using ez slide.

Do you outlaw the gun or jail the shooter??
Duh!
You don't blame the tool. You blame the user.

EZ Slide and such are there because there's a real and obvious need for them. Notice the USBC and the ABC never outlawed them. The law/rule reads such that if user abuses the substance and endangers others by getting in the way of others' bowling, then the officers can do something about it.

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DON DRAPER · « **Reply #23 on:** October 25, 2008, 04:48:32 PM »

technically, you can't apply any substance to the bottom of your slide shoe that may leave a residue on the approach. even if you wipe off the excess easy-slide from your shoe there is no way to measure the trace amount of the product left on your shoe. if you are a bowler and care about your own safety and the safety of your fellow bowlers do not apply easy-slide to the bottom of your slide shoe. if you are a bowler and you are competing on my pair you would be wise not to apply this type of product on your shoes. i will apply any and all pressure to make you change your mind and discontinue it's use.

in my opinion bowling center managers and owners do not spend enough time, effort, and money on the approaches in their centers. how can they expect customers to come back when something like this can cause/aggravate a physical problem ?

every time i go bowl whether it's open play practice, league, or a tournament, i thoroughly inspect the approaches and change my soles and/or heels as needed. my 3G tour ultra's have six(6) different soles and six(6) different heels for just this purpose. i also have a slide sock just in case.

ucumin2 · « **Reply #24 on:** October 25, 2008, 04:51:35 PM »

Well I can see that the last 2 post use ez slide. One worried about spelling other asking about guns. Guess just two more under average bowlers who can't bowl without there powder. Just learn to bowl right then no need for powder. If you can't stay home so the rest of us can bowl without injuries

sdbowler · « **Reply #25 on:** October 25, 2008, 04:53:16 PM »

I guess you have always bowled on "perfect" approaches then.

On edit. I have in the past a very a long time ago used cig. ashes only after I have rubbed them into the shoe very well.
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charlest · « **Reply #26 on:** October 25, 2008, 05:14:42 PM »

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Well I can see that the last 2 post use ez slide. One worried about spelling other asking about guns. Guess just two more under average bowlers who can't bowl without there powder. Just learn to bowl right then no need for powder. If you can't stay home so the rest of us can bowl without injuries

Nowhere in any of my replies did I ever say I use EZ slide. Read whatever you like into anyone's comments. It makes not one of your own comments any more correct.

If you are making judgements about everyone when you appear to have few bowling or life experiences outside your small circle, maybe you are the one who should get out into the real world. Please allow the rest of us have a discussion without pejoratives, being slung about. Making a personal criticism about someone because they disagree with your ideas is immature.
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charlest · « **Reply #27 on:** October 25, 2008, 05:27:57 PM »

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technically, you can't apply any substance to the bottom of your slide shoe that may leave a residue on the approach. even if you wipe off the excess easy-slide from your shoe there is no way to measure the trace amount of the product left on your shoe.

Greg,

That is not the way the rule reads, as quoted by Smash49 above. I assume he is correct.

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if you are a bowler and care about your own safety and the safety of your fellow bowlers do not apply easy-slide to the bottom of your slide shoe. if you are a bowler and you are competing on my pair you would be wise not to apply this type of product on your shoes. i will apply any and all pressure to make you change your mind and discontinue it's use.

And what are the people who stick supposed to do? Go home?

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in my opinion bowling center managers and owners do not spend enough time, effort, and money on the approaches in their centers. how can they expect customers to come back when something like this can cause/aggravate a physical problem ?

I agree INTENSELY AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY. See some of the other comments by people like Kong69, just above.

When I go to practice outside of league, 9 times out of 10, even after I look around the settee area, I am stepping on some candy or gum or popcorn or some other garbage some inconsiderate a**hole, who thinks only they exist in this world, threw on the floor.

But those who do stick have little choice in the matter, assuming their shoes are not the problem and their normal slide is proper.

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every time i go bowl whether it's open play practice, league, or a tournament, i thoroughly inspect the approaches and change my soles and/or heels as needed. my 3G tour ultra's have six(6) different soles and six(6) different heels for just this purpose. i also have a slide sock just in case.

I have one of Smash49's excellent slide socks. It was probably the most consistent slide sock I have ever had, YET it was not as slippery as the teflon discs I made for my Linds Exxxtras. I usually use one out of the 4 discs in my sole. I can also raise them well above the level of the leather base sole to insure I'm sliding on the teflon.

But what of others who do not have these accessories that you and I use???

(Already I got a private message from a BR.ocm member, asking me about my Teflon discs.)
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302efi · « **Reply #28 on:** October 25, 2008, 05:30:57 PM »

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the rule was posted, i'm not going back to quote it, but it says something like, you can't use any foreign materials on your shoes IF it defaces the approach or hinders another bowlers ability to bowl under normal conditions. by your logic, you can't prove it's actually on the approach.

therefore, nothing illegal.

If someone uses Easy Slide or powder and then other people have a problem..sliding to much or falling over, then its a problem.

I don't slide, so it really doesnt effect me, but I have no problem stoppping someone from using it or confronting someone thats using it.

That sh*t is dangerous and should be bannd all together !
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I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.

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sdbowler · « **Reply #29 on:** October 25, 2008, 05:34:53 PM »

Charlest great point. A bowling center that I use to bowl in back in Sioux Falls did a huge remodel a few years ago. They put in the Brunswick Anvilanes and approaches. Not for sure what series of either one. For the first few years they had problems with the approaches either being an ice skating rink or sticking like crazy. Some weeks I saw guys using their regular street shoes it was that slippery. The next week you could not slide at all. Having the many soles and heels helps but not all bowlers have them. I guess my point is that you never know what your going to get and you should expect to be on your toes.
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JohnP · « **Reply #30 on:** October 25, 2008, 07:06:18 PM »

I've been using the Bowler's Slide Sock for about 5 years now and haven't had the first problem with an approach. Buy one and try it, they're not expensive. If you don't like it, put it in your bag and try it again when you run into a sticky approach. But I'll bet if you will use it for 3 games you'll never bowl without one again. The link is in Smash49's signature. -- JohnP

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