Author Topic: How much do need to save to justify on-line purchases (Read 11158 times)

tenpinspro · « **on:** July 26, 2007, 10:43:59 AM »

Hey guys,

Just want some feedback on how much monetarily it takes you to save to buy on-line vs buying at your local pro shop. Thanks for your feedback...
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fins4ever88 · « **Reply #46 on:** July 27, 2007, 07:58:05 PM »

Good lord you guys are being charged high for drilling...

I recently bought a Red Zone from one of my "local" pro shops (half an hour away, not exactly local), for $205 drilled. I did this because I wanted a new opinion on drillings, rather than seeing the same guy. He was able to replicate my span perfectly with the Red Zone and the Power Drive I asked him to fix, which is something 2 other pro shops couldn't do correctly in multiple balls. At his shop, he charges $50 for drilling with inserts and slugs. My actual local pro shop, though he's not much of a driller, also charges $50 for drilling with inserts and slugs. The pro shop that I go to the most charges me $30 for drilling a blank, but I get a discount for being a youth bowler in his program.

The pro shop I go to the most charges about $210 for high-end equipment, $170 for mid-price, and then $100 for the entry level stuff. Inserts are another $20 for slugs and tips. Though, if you're a league bowler, I think there's a 10% off discount too.
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Gunny · « **Reply #47 on:** July 27, 2007, 09:42:29 PM »

out of all the bickering of where one should spend there money what have we learned? we really only learned that its their own money and they can do whatever they want with it, whether those agree or disagree about great online prices. consumers will always go where the best buy is. next thing we know people are gonna gripe about other people working on their own cars or houses instead of taking it to a mechanic or hiring a construction crew. its called money management.

i'm sure you wouldnt go to one dealership and pay top dollar for the car you want. a smart person would shop around to get the best deal. but according to some, that would be wrong because that dealership you just left, the salesman came up with empty pockets and we are suppose to worry about it. if your smart you check the internet, cause most dealerships will give 1-3000$ off because you saw it on the internet and drove the extra 50-70+ miles to come get it. you can call it penny pinching or whatever, but to me its smart shopping. remember, not everybody has a pro shop who works with their customers and gives deals and whatnot. if everything was the same everywhere, life would be boring.

some shops do have decent prices and some are through the roof. but regardless, my money goes where i feel it should, and most people feel the same.

Gunny · « **Reply #48 on:** July 27, 2007, 10:29:45 PM »

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but you have to watch out because some proshops charge more for a nib ball that you bring in. my friend bought the gforce online and paid 90 bucks to get his ball drilled. (switchgrip, finger/thumb inserts) i couldnt believe it.

ouch!

Xfest · « **Reply #49 on:** July 27, 2007, 11:57:13 PM »

And to all the people that are commenting on my post.

I simply stated our pro-shop's prices. 60 Dollars for an outside ball, grips and slugs 21.95. 81.95$ to drill an online ball. 61.95 to drill an in shop ball.

I support my shop, but hey, I work there part-time, why not? I get employee discounts, so I could careless how much we are making on customers. I know we do get about 50% markup on our prices although. I was stating our prices if a customer were to buy from bowling.com - and to the pro-shop.

strikestriketapped · « **Reply #50 on:** July 28, 2007, 12:05:56 AM »

If you buy a ball at a shop, drilling should be free.
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Strider · « **Reply #51 on:** July 28, 2007, 12:13:46 AM »

I prefer the a la carte pricing. Let them make a good profit on their drilling skills, but try to keep them competitive on balls, bags, and accessories. They don't have to match online prices; just be reasonable. Weed out the bad drillers, and let the good ones make a decent living. I used one of the more expensive proshops in AL because the driller was awesome. I brought him more balls than I bought from him, but his prices didn't include drilling. I don't want to see a good proshop close because they can't make enough profit, but I don't want to see bad ones get rich because people don't have any other choices.
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Smash49 · « **Reply #52 on:** July 28, 2007, 06:34:39 AM »

This topic appears on here once a week at least. It's real simple why would a pro shop charge more than the internet? We take usually the top 3 or so online retailers, average the price and then tack on our drilling charge. If you want slugs and inserts they are $12.50 when you purchase the ball. There are some balls we will not stock due to the fact that the online retailers are selling them below our cost. Buy the ball from that retailer and bring it in! On many items we are even lower than what you can get on the net. Some of the prices being quoted here for shops are really out of line. Shop around. If your pro shop is charging way too much for their merchandise find another one. If there is no other one around that may be the reason they are so high! Running a quality pro shop is expensive. Key word here is QUALITY. It takes a lot for the equipment, the inventory and to obtain the knowledge. It takes a fine balance to keep prices in line, customers happy and be able to stay in business.

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laufaye · « **Reply #53 on:** July 28, 2007, 12:16:47 PM »

Customer can buy wherever they want, go for the lowest price is fine, but PLEASE, PLEASE stop complaining the local pro shop charging too high, please do not even try to analyse how to run a pro shop or how a pro shop to make a living. We open the door to provide services and make money, yes we have all the right to make money.

The imbalance in pricing between the local pro shops and internet retailers is the problem here, its not a how pro shop should make money and is not where the customers should buy.

Bottom line is the online price is too close to the cost of the pro shop from distributor. So either the distributors selling to internet retailers lower then what they charge us or the distributors carging pro shop a lot more. Remember only need 1 distributor sell to internet retailers then the system is done.

Solution is manufacturer enforce MSRP on all retail levels, internet or local pro shops.

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laufaye · « **Reply #54 on:** July 28, 2007, 12:27:30 PM »

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I have got to say that if I could get the prices in my shop that some of you guys are quoting I could quit my day job and drill fulltime.

$195 drilled, out the door with inserts and slug for anything high end like Ones, Infernos, Actions, Shifts, PAradigms etc....

$175 drilled for the Storm Fire Line or Black Widows

$155 drilled for the Thunderstruck or RAW Hammer line

$21.95 for inserts and a slug? I have a tough time getting $15

Wow...I am in the wrong area of the country.....
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No disrespect Doug. I am pretty sure you know your price is a tad low compare to most others. If you are good and I beleive you are, you raise the price they still come to you, point is if your price is too low, you are not making decent living, and you are not happy, and the shops next door can not charge more, assuming you are the best in the area, when they cannot charge more they cut corners, lower the quality of services, the is a dead end street.

I am the highest in the area, I wish the other shops charge more as well, we need to make a living, and the pricing in the pro shop business now, we all under pay.

I charge $50 for a blank drill, grips 15, slug 15, switchgrip 35. I spend atleast 45 mins on a customer to drill a ball. I call a plumber to fix something $96 an hour and parts extra.

Lets charge what we deserved.
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Kinalyx · « **Reply #55 on:** July 28, 2007, 06:33:31 PM »

its simple for me, its ALWAYS $40 - $50 cheaper, if not more to buy online than in a shop.

BWP - $125 shipped online, $75 total for drilling, grips, slug & tax, & sometimes i get a break on that.

BWP - $219 at the pro shop, then add the $25 for grips, & tax on all of it & im over $250.

Im sorry, but pro shops just cant compete with onine shops, they cant order the amount online shops do, thus, online shops get more discounts from suppliers.

Shawn

nextbowler · « **Reply #56 on:** July 28, 2007, 08:28:50 PM »

Why would you need to justify to anyone how you spend
your money?

Doug Sterner · « **Reply #57 on:** July 28, 2007, 08:36:31 PM »

However Kinalyx if you were to buy the Black Widow Pearl in my shop you'd pay $175 plus sales tax with drilling, inserts and slug included. Also included are monthly cleanings and a once a season coverstock tune up.

You are getting raped by your shop guy for slug/inserts...Inserts are $5.00 per pair and slugs are $5.00 each. Would make more sense to me to buy your own slugs and inserts and take them in with the ball.

Would he charge you the slug/insert fee even if you brought your own???
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toomanytenpins · « **Reply #58 on:** July 29, 2007, 03:12:50 AM »

i think it deepends on what you are buying . i have bought balls new with shipping for 80 bucks I.e, epic battle for 79 oddessy for 90 and 55 to drill . I couldnt go in anybodies pro shop for those prices. Then there are the balls u get off ebay.New ,blems and used .30 to 40 bucks shipped and my driller drills for 30 . Even if i spend 130 or 140 shipped for a ball the pro shop would want 200 to 230 drilled . 100 bucks is 100 bucks.10 bucks is still money in the bank
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Buzzhead · « **Reply #59 on:** July 29, 2007, 08:47:33 AM »

Doug I "took my own" once to a guy here, he is the best around. He ended up charging me $20 more to drill my ball. so instead of selling inserts, he charged more than what I would have paid to just buy everything there.
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1MechEng · « **Reply #60 on:** July 29, 2007, 09:21:22 AM »

General rule of thumb is about $20.00 savings is enough enticement for me to shop online. I will only buy from reputable/established sources, though (no E-bay for me!).

The interesting thing is that the cost of shipping is approx. to the cost of tax in my area (on a med. level ball), so that part is a wash.

Generally, the problem I have with the local pro-shops is the hours and selection. They are smaller shops, and don't have the variety that I can easily find online. They are also not open until 9pm - when I can do most of my shopping in the evening. (They close right after leagues start at 7-7:30pm)

My $.02 worth.
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