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Is a No Tap 300 Game a Big Achievement?
« on: January 05, 2015, 10:55:13 AM »
My answer is "No".


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Re: Is a No Tap 300 Game a Big Achievement?
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2015, 03:07:33 PM »
I have a No-Tap 1200... That is cool say but if it wasn't No-Tap it prolly would've been 860 (:

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Re: Is a No Tap 300 Game a Big Achievement?
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2015, 03:09:00 PM »
I showed I could get at least 48 shots in a row
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Re: Is a No Tap 300 Game a Big Achievement?
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2015, 03:38:51 PM »
I bowled in a fairly small 9 pin tourney a couple weeks ago.  One bad shot each game (all spits, converted one).  I think I had 4 or 5 9 pin strikes and those were all the first two games.  Last game was a natural 265 (stupid split).  Finished 2nd in the tournament without a 300 game; won none of the high game jackpots. 

I was just using it as practice.  I assumed after I missed a shot the first 2 games I was done.  I suspect getting 2nd with no 300s was a fluke, but it did make me think about doing it again in the future.
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Re: Is a No Tap 300 Game a Big Achievement?
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2015, 04:59:21 PM »
I just wanted to add a quick 2 cents here. Why do bowlers have issues with other bowlers bragging about their achievement?  Do you belittle the kid who says he hit a home run by replying but you only play tee ball?   That what I read here from some people.   "real"  bowlers wouldn't consider it an achievement.   Why not.   It was the maximum score for the rules being used.   And you wonder why hdcp bowlers think some scratch guys are aholes.   Way to prove their point.

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Re: Is a No Tap 300 Game a Big Achievement?
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2015, 05:04:47 PM »
I just wanted to add a quick 2 cents here. Why do bowlers have issues with other bowlers bragging about their achievement?  Do you belittle the kid who says he hit a home run by replying but you only play tee ball?   That what I read here from some people.   "real"  bowlers wouldn't consider it an achievement.   Why not.   It was the maximum score for the rules being used.   And you wonder why hdcp bowlers think some scratch guys are aholes.   Way to prove their point.

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But honestly, this is exactly right. Let bowling be what each bowler wants it to be for themselves. It's no wonder why most people don't take the sport side of bowling seriously.
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Re: Is a No Tap 300 Game a Big Achievement?
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2015, 06:34:48 PM »
"No Tap" is no different than the "everyone gets a trophy concept". It's a "GAME" that gives lower skilled bowlers a bigger chance to strike just as much as the higher skilled bowlers. You remove the challenge to carry and picking up the single pin spare.  These are very important skills in ten pin bowling and they are completely removed from this game.

Is it fun? Yes.
Does draw in people? Most definitely.

Just calling it what it is. I rather hear someone telling me about their first 200 game or first 500 series or the time they threw 3 strikes in the tenth to beat the other team in league night. To me, those are bigger achievements.
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Re: Is a No Tap 300 Game a Big Achievement?
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2015, 09:11:09 PM »
Still have to throw 12 good shots so I would say it can be an accomplishment in that aspect

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Re: Is a No Tap 300 Game a Big Achievement?
« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2015, 09:24:44 PM »
Every bowler at every level has accomplishments and each should gauge their own...I agree no one should belittle anyone for what they are proud of...
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Re: Is a No Tap 300 Game a Big Achievement?
« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2015, 09:35:24 PM »
Never had a real no tap 300. I guess I suck, :(.....

Everyone has a personal goal, I like people to just be happy with the sport and achieve something to keep the feeling alive.
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Re: Is a No Tap 300 Game a Big Achievement?
« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2015, 09:46:52 PM »
^^^^good answer^^^^
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Re: Is a No Tap 300 Game a Big Achievement?
« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2015, 09:52:35 PM »
I just wanted to add a quick 2 cents here. Why do bowlers have issues with other bowlers bragging about their achievement?  Do you belittle the kid who says he hit a home run by replying but you only play tee ball?   That what I read here from some people.   "real"  bowlers wouldn't consider it an achievement.   Why not.   It was the maximum score for the rules being used.   And you wonder why hdcp bowlers think some scratch guys are aholes.   Way to prove their point.

Well said.  Some of these comments just prove that Haters are going to Hate.  Its the spirit of the moment, doing the best you can playing by the rules of the tourney, and just plain having a good time.  Is it a big achievment?  Like said before, it depends on the individual.  Is it a fun achievemnet?  Should be unless you're just a total buzzkill.
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Re: Is a No Tap 300 Game a Big Achievement?
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2015, 10:36:17 AM »
I just wanted to add a quick 2 cents here. Why do bowlers have issues with other bowlers bragging about their achievement?  Do you belittle the kid who says he hit a home run by replying but you only play tee ball?   That what I read here from some people.   "real"  bowlers wouldn't consider it an achievement.   Why not.   It was the maximum score for the rules being used.   And you wonder why hdcp bowlers think some scratch guys are aholes.   Way to prove their point.

Well said.  Some of these comments just prove that Haters are going to Hate.  Its the spirit of the moment, doing the best you can playing by the rules of the tourney, and just plain having a good time.  Is it a big achievment?  Like said before, it depends on the individual.  Is it a fun achievemnet?  Should be unless you're just a total buzzkill.

Many of us are on the same page, some aren't.

I think that bowling should be supported and bring back the times of when you were on a waiting list to open bowl, no lanes open on any league night and I feel that anything I can do, I will. If a bowler averages 150, enjoys the game and is respectful to himself and others, whether he uses two hands, one hand or four limbs, it does not matter to me. At least there is one more person who enjoys one of the things I do.

Watching a high school team yesterday, I saw the excitement of someone that rolled their first 200. Was that a big achievement, in my goals, no. But the individual who did it was elated, and that made me smile on the inside and outside.

At one time we were just beginning, some people peak at a higher level. Everybody's first 200, clean game, no tap 300 were big achievements to us at that time.

If I shoot another 300, it will be a big achievement to me since I have less than 10. For someone that has 100+ of those 300 games, they might think it is not. If I get my 800, same thing.

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Re: Is a No Tap 300 Game a Big Achievement?
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2015, 11:21:41 AM »
Never had a real no tap 300. I guess I suck, :(.....

Everyone has a personal goal, I like people to just be happy with the sport and achieve something to keep the feeling alive.

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Re: Is a No Tap 300 Game a Big Achievement?
« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2015, 12:36:32 PM »
Maybe our definition of "BIG ACHIEVMENT" is different.

Example: I watched a young man throw his first 300 game this past weekend. A great thing to watch! Someone got his last shot on video.  What awesome memory to have on video. Especially since his parents were not there to see it. His reaction was priceless. Everyone hugging him and congratulating him. Personally, I will never forget it! 

Example 2:Several weeks ago. I watch a very young girl throw her first 100 game. Her parents went crazy. She was excited. It was great moment for her. She had come close so many times before and she finally did it.

To me those are BIG ACHIEVEMENTS in bowling.

This is not about belittling someone. I just don't see a No Tap 300 game as a BIG ACHIEVEMENT. It's something unique but I don't think of it as a milestone. 

I equate it to shooting a Dutch 200 game or picking up an 8-10 Split.

As stated earlier. It happens on my pair, high fives are happenning, free drinks are in order. I just don't see giving it the same type of reaction as my two examples above.
 
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Re: Is a No Tap 300 Game a Big Achievement?
« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2015, 01:03:20 PM »
Trash,
    That's cause you are equating it to your goals. To someone who has never thrown a 300, someone who has never even been close to throwing a 300, someone who probably never will roll a "regulation" 300 game...to those people it is a BIG ACHIEVEMENT. Plus unless you are there watching, how do you the "no-tap" 300 wasn't a real 300? I stated in my earlier post, a bowler who bowls a weekly no-tap tournament at a house in Northern California. His mother started it and so he rolls it week in and week out. He did it when he was younger and still does it now even though he is a very accomplished scratch bowler. He rolled 36 straight strikes during this tournament once, real strikes, no 9 count strikes. That is a 900. Is it recognized, no. But is that not a BIG ACHIEVEMENT?!? So why say to someone who may roll a 300 with the help of a few "no-tap" strikes it's not a BIG ACHIEVEMENT to them or others?




Maybe our definition of "BIG ACHIEVMENT" is different.

Example: I watched a young man throw his first 300 game this past weekend. A great thing to watch! Someone got his last shot on video.  What awesome memory to have on video. Especially since his parents were not there to see it. His reaction was priceless. Everyone hugging him and congratulating him. Personally, I will never forget it! 

Example 2:Several weeks ago. I watch a very young girl throw her first 100 game. Her parents went crazy. She was excited. It was great moment for her. She had come close so many times before and she finally did it.

To me those are BIG ACHIEVEMENTS in bowling.

This is not about belittling someone. I just don't see a No Tap 300 game as a BIG ACHIEVEMENT. It's something unique but I don't think of it as a milestone. 

I equate it to shooting a Dutch 200 game or picking up an 8-10 Split.

As stated earlier. It happens on my pair, high fives are happenning, free drinks are in order. I just don't see giving it the same type of reaction as my two examples above.
 
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