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mtlenway

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Is Easy Slide illegal?
« on: November 16, 2007, 02:06:29 AM »
I seen in another post that someone suggested that using easy slide on your shoe is illegel, is that so?  In the past I have used easy slide extensively to help me slide.  I injured both my legs in the first Gulf War causing significant damage to both my knees, ankles and calves.  I took about 30 pieces of shrapnel from a cluster bomb.  The only way I could even consider bowling is if I was able to slide with very little resistance or it would hurt like hell or I would end up doing a belly flop into the alley.  Nobody ever complained.  I am not currently using easy slide now as I have purchase a new pair of Dexter SST5 with the interchangeable heals and slide pads that enable me to slide pretty well.  Nonetheless, I still keep a bag of easy slide in my bag for emergencies.
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Phoneman

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Re: Is Easy Slide illegal?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2007, 10:10:37 AM »
Easy slide is considered a forgein (sp) substance and you cannot put it on the surface of the approach.
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shelley

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Re: Is Easy Slide illegal?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2007, 10:13:32 AM »
If no one complains about it then it's not a problem.  If the Dexters give you problems you could try the cleat sole that comes with Tour Ultras (I think you can buy it separately for other 3G shoes as well).  Or make one by cutting holes in one of your soles.

Rule 12 says:

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Rule 12 – Approaches Must Not Be Defaced
The application of any foreign substance on any part of the approach that  detracts from the possibility of other players having normal conditions is prohibited. This includes, but is not limited to talcum powder, pumice and resin on shoes, and/or soft rubber soles or heels that rub off on the approach.

CAQ 12/1 One of the bowlers is having a difficult time sliding on the approach and applies a commercial product purchased at the center pro shop to the bottom of his/her shoes. The product is designed to help a bowler slide. The secretary says she has received a complaint from the opposing team and notifies the individual to stop using the substance or the game will be forfeited. Can an officer tell a bowler to stop using the substance and declare the game forfeited?

Commercial products, talcum powder or any substance applied to the shoe or approach could be in violation of Rule 12. If a league participant uses a substance and somebody complains that it prohibits him/her from having normal conditions, the league officer should require the individual to immediately stop his/her action. If the individual refuses, his/her games are subject to forfeiture.


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mrbowlingnut

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Re: Is Easy Slide illegal?
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2007, 10:13:35 AM »
Use the number 10 sole and the red heel number 7 i doubt you will ever need the easy slide again.
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shelley

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Re: Is Easy Slide illegal?
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2007, 10:14:23 AM »
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Easy slide is considered a forgein (sp) substance and you cannot put it on the surface of the approach.


You can so long as no one complains.  If it does not hinder other bowlers' ability to slide it is legal.

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J_Mac

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Re: Is Easy Slide illegal?
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2007, 10:19:19 AM »
The simple answer for any of these rule questions is this -

Nothing is illegal if you don't get caught or no one cares...
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shelley

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Re: Is Easy Slide illegal?
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2007, 10:20:56 AM »
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The simple answer for any of these rule questions is this -

Nothing is illegal if you don't get caught or no one cares...


Not really.  It's still illegal, you're just not punished for it.  This rule specifically has a "if no one cares" clause.

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bowl400

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Re: Is Easy Slide illegal?
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2007, 10:23:37 AM »
i always say that if you use it in small amounts, it should not be a problem.  where it does become an issue is when you see someone dump the little bag on the floor and pat it a few times to get a good amount of the stuff out, then step into it.  this tends to get the stuff everywhere, and that is a major problem.
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Monster Pike

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Re: Is Easy Slide illegal?
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2007, 10:24:36 AM »
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Use the number 10 sole and the red heel number 7 i doubt you will ever need the easy slide again.


I thought the higher the # the less slide, the lower # more slide.  At least w/my dynaroos it's that way.  Or am I not interpreting properly?
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J_Mac

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Re: Is Easy Slide illegal?
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2007, 10:26:10 AM »
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Use the number 10 sole and the red heel number 7 i doubt you will ever need the easy slide again.


I thought the higher the # the less slide, the lower # more slide.  At least w/my dynaroos it's that way.  Or am I not interpreting properly?
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Dexter does it opposite of Dyno then...

The higher the total number... the more slide.
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Re: Is Easy Slide illegal?
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2007, 10:27:26 AM »
If I see someone using it no big deal if I start slipping and sliding on the approach losing my footing then I will call the person on it.

I think the stuff is dangerous
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Re: Is Easy Slide illegal?
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2007, 10:27:43 AM »
Any time you are defacing the approach for the next bowler it is illegal, read the rule book
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michelle

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Re: Is Easy Slide illegal?
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2007, 10:33:45 AM »
The problem with stuff like EZ Slide comes when some idiot decides that they need to be hitting the bottom of their shoe like the EZ Slide bag was a rosin bag.  It is the same caliber of idiot that thinks that because baby powder is cheaper, they will put a big mound of it on the floor or on a table top.  Then they track all of that crap into the pit and onto the approach.  

If someone is outside of the pit and rubs a small quantity onto the sole of the shoe and the excess is off before they get into the pit and onto the approach, then there should be no issues.
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Phoneman

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Re: Is Easy Slide illegal?
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2007, 10:33:48 AM »
Rule 12 – Approaches Must Not Be Defaced
The application of any foreign substance on any part of the approach that detracts from the possibility of other players having normal conditions is prohibited. This includes, but is not limited to talcum powder, pumice and resin on shoes, and/or soft rubber soles or heels that rub off on the approach.

This is the written rule no where in here does it say anything about could cause a problem.  The Question to clarify the rule does say could.  The rule states it is illegal.

Just because you drive 100 mph in a 55 mph zone does not make it legal because you did not get caught....
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shelley

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Re: Is Easy Slide illegal?
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2007, 10:44:29 AM »
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This is the written rule no where in here does it say anything about could cause a problem.  The Question to clarify the rule does say could.  The rule states it is illegal.


The rule states "...that detracts...".  If it does not detract from other bowlers ability to slide, then there's no rule violation.  If the lone lefty uses it to slide at 10L while the righties are sliding at 25R (15L) then the Easy Slide is not detracting from their ability to slide properly.  If they move left and run into the part of the approach that has been affected by the Easy Slide, then the lefty must stop using it and the approach must be cleaned.

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