My first thought is to take something like a Freeze Solid and put the pin at 2 inches from your axis and surface to 4000 with Factory Finish.  That way it will be stronger than your Natural and yet not flippy off the dry and yet able to blend in any wet/dry that you may see.

You can't go wrong with the information that Charlest gave you. He is usually right on the money when it comes to ball prep for tough conditions. I like BrunsMike's suggestion as well.

I don't know what brand of balls you like, but I use an arsenal of Sonic-X's and Ultra-Sonics, prepped the way that Charlest has proposed. This gives me a variety of ways to attack the lanes and stay away from the track area being used by others. I also have an RG Riot that I use, polished, and it is smooth as silk on almost toasted lanes!

Hammer arson low flare, will be perfect for what you are seeing
im in the same boat
super smooth and arcing.
wont jump off the dry at all
OBB is 500 + polish, take the underlying surface grit up higher and its just more of the same, even smoother.

It needs to be drilled a bit stronger than you think as the dif is quite low.
 

Charlest,

Where would the track 300C fit in compared to your recommendations?

I had the opportunity to tour the Ebonite factory and bowl at the test center.
Met all the brand managers, was an awesome experience
Top notch company for sure

Anyways, I have all 3 of the 300 series
300c - kind of a love/hate ball, sometimes great, sometimes not, redrilled it, surfaces, etc..

300T - love this ball, weaker and predictable, layout on mine is pin just under the bridge and weight hole on PAP, short sport killer...

300A - Mitch Beasley laid this piece out for me just for the toasty shot, it has been mentioned here already, 2" pin-pap, what a great piece, wont over react at all with that short pin.
when everybody else is moving in, i can move out and stay there
Predictable move off the end of the pattern every time(unless you help it, then you see the "A" characteristic of the ball, it will jump a little)
used it a few days ago on a highway to hell pattern, dulled to 1000 by hand, moved out and threw it up 6-7, made nice move to the pocket and carried well.

My biggest problem on the friction is helping it, dryer it is, harder i throw it and more i help it.

if you help it all at on friction, you are at a disadvantage from the start.
Guys who have the good, smooth stay behind it, release seem to do much better IMO

My greastest improvement for the dry THS on wood lanes has been improving my technique, equipment is also important, but secondary in this equation

dry lane equipment
original JET
300a
arson low flare
blue hammer, U2 classic (these tend to hook way early and stop at this house)
hammer taboo spare (has weird looking carry, but carries well because of the core)

Nothing to report after tonight. They got a new oiling machine and new cleaner and the shot was terrible. 4 200 averages on the pair and no one shot average.

I was swinging my natural 15-5 on the right lane and 20-5 on the left and was fighting it hooking to much on the left lane.

That's just not right. Condolences. Is it polished? weak drilling?

I wish the Tropical Breeze solid were still available. It could be a good choice for you not that I hear this. BUT you'd have to use a control drilling and, at least, haze the stock polish which is far too flippy. Maybe the good looking Black Cherry Hybrid TB would be of value.

While I think the Scream could also work in this case, I'm not 100% positive. I just drilled mine up and hope to try it on Sunday or Monday. I'm pretty sure it's weaker and more controllable than the Ascent Pearl; but again, I need to prove it tomyself before recommending it.

Quote from: lsf_21 on January 25, 2013, 10:41:03 PM

Nothing to report after tonight. They got a new oiling machine and new cleaner and the shot was terrible. 4 200 averages on the pair and no one shot average.

I was swinging my natural 15-5 on the right lane and 20-5 on the left and was fighting it hooking to much on the left lane.

That's just not right. Condolences. Is it polished? weak drilling?

I wish the Tropical Breeze solid were still available. It could be a good choice for you not that I hear this. BUT you'd have to use a control drilling and, at least, haze the stock polish which is far too flippy. Maybe the good looking Black Cherry Hybrid TB would be of value.

While I think the Scream could also work in this case, I'm not 100% positive. I just drilled mine up and hope to try it on Sunday or Monday. I'm pretty sure it's weaker and more controllable than the Ascent Pearl; but again, I need to prove it tomyself before recommending it.

It is drilled with a "length" drilling. Pin above fingers center bridge with CG swung out with a big ole weight hole close to PAP.
Also we were bowling on 1 and 2 which always seems to be terrible.

They said with the new machine/cleaner combo they might have to put more oil on the lane and my response was we needed more oil before. At least they are open to suggestions. They are a new house that opened in April of last year and have had 4 or so 300s and 2 sets in the 780s. Problem has been the shots breaking down and its tough to put 3 games together. Biggest league in the house is 50 bowlers and there are around 10-15 200 averages.

The last 3 sets I bowled before last night I have had high games of 289, 269, and 253. The problem has been losing carry. Monday I go 269 and proceed to leave 8 single pins and shoot like 180.

Hopefully Monday is better. It is roll off so I am worried we will be on lanes 1 and 2 again.

If you're scoring that well in games 1 & 2 with the Natural, I wouldn't change a thing.

A go-to ball like the Scream or the 300A may be all you need for the 3rd game.