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Magic Carpet

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North West coast, A chance to work with Ron Clifton?
« on: May 26, 2005, 04:55:13 AM »
Anyone interested in working with Ron Clifton in the Portland Oregon area?
I am trying to put together ether a 3 day clinic or even a bunch of private lessons for the weekend of July 8,9 and 10.
I may have a day or two before or after those dates as well before I have to move south toward Ca.

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Re: North West coast, A chance to work with Ron Clifton?
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2005, 01:19:40 PM »
I'd be interested as well. I echo pbafire, Washington would work better for me as I am in British Columbia.

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Re: North West coast, A chance to work with Ron Clifton?
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2005, 05:32:46 PM »
Ron,

I would possibly be interested in the couple of days after that weekend.  Unfortunately, you chose the weekend that coincides with my 10 year class reunion, so I'll have to be out of town.  Portland is about 2.5 hrs from where I live, but I would consider making the drive, unless of course you planned on stopping in beautiful Bend, OR on your way to Cali.

On edit, I would also like to know the cost involved (1-3 days).  I have to know if it would be worth that drive, but I could use some instruction and would strongly consider doing this.
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Edited on 5/26/2005 5:28 PM

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Re: North West coast, A chance to work with Ron Clifton?
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2005, 11:15:14 AM »
I'd be interested, but I think that there is a regional bridge tournament in Spokane that weekend that I'm committed to play.
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Re: North West coast, A chance to work with Ron Clifton?
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2005, 02:07:00 PM »
Thanks for the response guys.
This is a last second throw something together deal so you will see I am not well organized. I am just trying to go where I can get the most people in one spot.
Marc, one of the guys that run this site http://www.bowlercentral.com/ out of Portland thinks he has 1 or 2 people interested so that is a good start. That is why I picked Portland.

I really don’t care where I go except that I need to be within 500 miles or so from Mt. Shasta Ca. That is where I need to be toward the end of the next week.

To do a full 3 day clinic I usually need 6 bowlers that will pay $250 each plus lineage. Then I can do 3 full 8 hour days. This is what I like to do the most because the bowlers learn the most by doing 3 consecutive days. A full 3 day clinic is normally a requirement for me to travel across country or I would loose money in the process. If I am gong to be in the area anyway (like this trip) I can be a little more flexible. For example, I could do a two day clinic for $200 a person or a 1 day for $150 per person plus lineage.

For private lessons when I am traveling I usually charge $120 for a two hour session for one person or $200 for 2 people for two hours. (Save $20 each) As you can see doing a full day or more clinic is quite a bargain, there are just more people there to help share the cost. You learn just as much though.

I am open to suggestions and I hope to see some of you guys in July.
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Re: North West coast, A chance to work with Ron Clifton?
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2005, 09:37:59 PM »
Here's a question, Ron:

Would you accept MORE than 6 bowlers in order for us to share in the cost?  Or would you charge them the same individually?  It sounds like you need $1500 total for the 3 day session to make it worth your while, so if we had say, 8 bowlers instead of 6 would we be able to share the cost more effectively?

If you can do this, I'll start recruiting immediately.  I can think of several people off the top of my head who MIGHT be interested.

Let me know, and I can start asking around.
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Re: North West coast, A chance to work with Ron Clifton?
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2005, 11:56:51 PM »
SawFreak
You pretty much have it figured out and what you suggest is fine. I can go pretty much anywhere in the lower 48 states for $1500.
8 people is pretty much the max for a 3 day clinic. Working by myself I can't cover more than 8 people and give them the attention they deserve.

The way I work it is to have half the people show up in the morning and have the other half start about noon (the first day only). I take the first group and video tape them and set down and discuss possible changes they need to make. Then I take each person out on the lane and show them how to do a task; a drill if you will. Once I have gone though the first half of the class and everyone is working on a drill I start with the 2nd group of people and do the same. I divide the learning process into small pieces so you learn a few parts each day, then on the last day they all come together and a better bowler pops out.

Just like making a pizza LOL

If I have everyone there at one time there is too much of ether sitting around doing nothing until I can get to them or they bowl their arms off and are too tired to learn.

Once everyone has a task to practice I bounce from person to person making little changes or giving out new task as they need it. I do this for the full 3 days so it is more like private lessons really than a “cookie cutter class” like some schools.

This also makes it ok for everyone at different skill levels, from beginner to Pro. Each lesson is for each individual bowler and not the whole class.

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Re: North West coast, A chance to work with Ron Clifton?
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2005, 12:20:02 AM »
SawFreak,

I might be able to make it. Pm me if you have a spot.
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Re: North West coast, A chance to work with Ron Clifton?
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2005, 07:48:31 PM »
My main concern is missing the weekend session in Portland due to my class reunion.  Ron, if I can get 6 people together, would you stop in Bend, OR for the next couple of days on your way to Cali (say Mon. and Tue.)?

Bend is on the East side of the Cascade Mountains, and might not be QUITE as quick as going down I-5 from Portland, but is MUCH more scenic, in my opinion.  If you are driving, Ron, this is the way to go!

Since I probably can't get to Portland during that weekend, my only option is to have you stop on your way through early that next week.  If I can get the required 6-8 people, would you stop by for a 2-3 day session?  Especially now that pagnouch has expressed interest (and he is in Grant's Pass which is closer to Bend than Portland), it would be 2 down 4 to go!
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Re: North West coast, A chance to work with Ron Clifton?
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2005, 08:13:50 PM »
Ron,

If Portland it has to be, then I think I can attend one or two days. I already did the drive last weekend, and would be willing to do it again to get some coaching from you.

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Re: North West coast, A chance to work with Ron Clifton?
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2005, 11:25:31 AM »
Pbafire and DArtagnon do you guys think you could find a few more bowlers in Washington?
I will go where I can find the most bowlers.

SawFreak, if you find some bowlers I will come. Your town is kind of on the way anyway.

Thanks for helping out guys!

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Re: North West coast, A chance to work with Ron Clifton?
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2005, 11:35:43 AM »
Great!  I'll get to work and let you know.  Hopefully I can get enough bowlers to commit.
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Re: North West coast, A chance to work with Ron Clifton?
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2005, 11:36:45 AM »
I can't promise much. Most of the people I know who could really use the coaching would rather buy the newest hook in the box rather than drive 2 hours to get lessons. If Portland will be the location, I would still be interested for at least a day or two.

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Re: North West coast, A chance to work with Ron Clifton?
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2005, 12:32:20 PM »
I would make Portland also.
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Re: North West coast, A chance to work with Ron Clifton?
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2005, 01:59:24 PM »
Hello Everyone.

I am the one working with Ron to get this all set up in Portland for the Weekend of July 8-10.  We have a PBA Regional event going on that weekend in Hillsboro and should be a great event.  The plan is to host it fairly close to the regional.

We have 2-3 guys confirmed.  If you are travelling in, we do have some hotel connections in the area that might be helpful.

Email me at:  marc@bowlercentral.com for more info.  We can also take reservations and credit cards online.