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n00dlejester

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Pros in local tournaments?
« on: April 13, 2008, 11:37:24 PM »
So yesterday I bowled in the NJ State Tournament, and lo and behold Parker Bohn III was there for the 9:00AM singles/doubles squad, and the 12:30PM 5-man team squad.  So we start the day bowling doubles, and the first game he fired a 300.  He was part of about 10 brackets and obviously destroyed anybody.  Because of this people near my pairs (I was on 3-4) were saying that having a pro is a non-PBA event is just not fair.  One guy made the analogy that "it's like having Ryan Howard playing for the high school varsity team."  

I personally think having pros in local events is fine.  The talent gap between the pros and the locals (at least on a THS, which this tournament was) is nowhere near the talent gap between local and pro baseball players.  And it was a lot of fun watching him tear it up on a THS (he shot 780 for doubles, and a low 7 for singles).  What are your thoughts on all this?
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2008, 07:48:05 AM »
My thoughts are if most bowlers put as much effort into their games as they do into whining, they'd be much better bowlers.
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2008, 08:40:37 AM »
Why not let them play, they pay their leagues fees and local association dues.
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2008, 08:47:03 AM »
The thing is, the tournaments you are complaining about are organizational events, not pro or amatuer events.  The props pay thier membership dues, and therefore have every right to participate in those events.
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2008, 08:51:36 AM »
let them bowl, it will only make you better.
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2008, 08:52:28 AM »
Rules for the TOURNAMENT have to define acceptance of Pros .. I would prefer WATCHING events where they are acceptable!
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2008, 08:54:05 AM »
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Just remember, if he would of gotten beat by a bunch of people, this would of never even been a topic!!!

BULL CRAP!! lol if I ever beat PB3 I would tell EVERYONE!! lol

I know where your coming from though, we had a PBA guy to bowl in a 9pin no tap tournament a couple months ago which I didn't know he was a PBA player till I happened to go through the exempt players and there he was...but it was doubles and his partner wasn't bowling well and we still beat them so I don't care..lol
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Re: Pros in local tournaments?
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2008, 08:56:33 AM »
Personally i think that exempt pro's should stay away from these types of events. But he does have a right to bowl in it.

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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2008, 08:56:42 AM »
Parker bowls that tournament almost every year.  Its good PR.

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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2008, 09:15:14 AM »
I've had Mike Wolfe stomp me in brackets in our city tournament before, and I have no problem with it.  He's a nice guy, fun to bowl with, and it's not like he's some kind of mystical, unbeatable force.  He's just another bowler who happens to be more talented than 99% of us and makes a career out of it.

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Re: Pros in local tournaments?
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2008, 09:17:43 AM »
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So yesterday I bowled in the NJ State Tournament, and lo and behold Parker Bohn III was there for the 9:00AM singles/doubles squad, and the 12:30PM 5-man team squad.  So we start the day bowling doubles, and the first game he fired a 300.  He was part of about 10 brackets and obviously destroyed anybody.  Because of this people near my pairs (I was on 3-4) were saying that having a pro is a non-PBA event is just not fair.  One guy made the analogy that "it's like having Ryan Howard playing for the high school varsity team."  

I personally think having pros in local events is fine.  The talent gap between the pros and the locals (at least on a THS, which this tournament was) is nowhere near the talent gap between local and pro baseball players.  And it was a lot of fun watching him tear it up on a THS (he shot 780 for doubles, and a low 7 for singles).  What are your thoughts on all this?


you wouldn't have complained if he shot 620, 615, 660. you would have said something like "wow, parker bohn sucked, i even beat him, i will tell everyone."  i have watched multiple non-pro bowlers put up better numbers than he did in your tourney.  a bowler is a bowler.  pro bowlers can shoot highscores, but if you watch all the telecasts, you can also see they can shoot 149's with ease.  and its not like ryan howard playing in highschool, cause that is not allowed.  bad bad analogy.
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2008, 09:25:54 AM »
As long as they have reason to be there, I'm fine with it.  I've seen Steve Jaros at some of the local tournaments around Chicago, I know Chris and Linda Barnes still bowl the various Kansas tournaments.  Now, if WRW came up to Chicago just for our city tournament or if Danny Wiseman went out to California for their state tournament, that I would disagree with.  A lot of the PBA guys will bowl league, or manage a bowling center when not on tour, a few own at least one center (Doug Kent).  I view city and state tournaments as just a step above league, you bowl with people you like.  I'm sure the PBA guys that bowl these tournaments do so because they get be in a competive environment without having their livlihood on the line.
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Re: Pros in local tournaments?
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2008, 09:26:02 AM »
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So yesterday I bowled in the NJ State Tournament, and lo and behold Parker Bohn III was there for the 9:00AM singles/doubles squad, and the 12:30PM 5-man team squad.  So we start the day bowling doubles, and the first game he fired a 300.  He was part of about 10 brackets and obviously destroyed anybody.  Because of this people near my pairs (I was on 3-4) were saying that having a pro is a non-PBA event is just not fair.  One guy made the analogy that "it's like having Ryan Howard playing for the high school varsity team."  

I personally think having pros in local events is fine.  The talent gap between the pros and the locals (at least on a THS, which this tournament was) is nowhere near the talent gap between local and pro baseball players.  And it was a lot of fun watching him tear it up on a THS (he shot 780 for doubles, and a low 7 for singles).  What are your thoughts on all this?


you wouldn't have complained if he shot 585, 615, 660.  i have watched multiple non-pro bowlers put up better numbers.  a bowler is a bowler.  pro bowlers can shoot highscores, but if you watch all the telecasts, you can also see they can shoot 149's with ease.

I dont think he was complaining.  In fact in knowing the original poster's scores I believe he beat Parker's singles scores.  Besides, there is a huge difference in watching someone throw a 149 on a PBA telecast and throwing a 149 on a THS at Howell Lanes.  Re-read the post.
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Re: Pros in local tournaments?
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2008, 10:11:46 AM »
We can check the standings here:
http://njbowling.com/njstatetournament.htm
I did beat him in singles, I shot a 757 scratch to his whatever it was.

And as far as whoever said I was complaining: I wasn't.  Read my post again.  

Sportskraz, say something dude.

It was a lot of fun.  I must say having all those yellow Bohn Zone shirts floating around was cool.
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Re: Pros in local tournaments?
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2008, 10:18:28 AM »
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Sportskraz, say something dude.
He did say something, but he buried his post inside the quote tags, so it's hard to see it.