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Shut up Pete Weber (Video evidence)
« on: February 09, 2015, 12:24:43 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XywB2_UCqOo


Taking his towel off of the ball return at 3:46 & 7:30.  Also, he throws a Brooklyn at 6:10 and look at his reaction.  Shut up old man.
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Re: Shut up Pete Weber (Video evidence)
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2015, 07:42:21 AM »
I agree about Belmont, but that also puts a black eye on the PBA....

IF they knew that was the rules, and he was breaking them with multiple bowlers as he was then something should have been done.

I don't like Belmont...I believe he does stuff...to get in the head of other bowlers...every professional bowler know you don't do that...he knew it would upset Pete throw him off his game...yes Pete made a poor shot in the 10th frame....but would he if Belmont didn't do what he did...if you notice in championship match didn't stick his towel on his opponents ball he knew he could beat the guy....just says Belmont is a good bowler but when he's up against tough odds does this from time to time...rash comes to mind...I would made a big stink on tv... I would of got up and threw his towel at him...would of verbally told him about it to...Pete is a hot head but ask yourself what you do in that situation?

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Re: Shut up Pete Weber (Video evidence)
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2015, 08:03:46 AM »
interstate4, just stop for crying out loud. I just watched a replay of the match on my dvr and I must say it was much ado about nothing. The PBA wants some color in bowling and the current owners asked for such when they bought it. PDW volunteered to to be the bad guy or controversial figure. I would be pissed also if I always found somebody's towel on my ball for no other reason than common courtesy. He didn't make that big a deal about it on camera, mainly some arm motions to whomever he was telling off to the side. He was far more animated and disgusted by the two brooklyns as many bowlers are, in competitive situations. I guess you've forgotten your international face of bowling crackling his plastic water bottle more than once during matches with Sean Rash, as Rash was getting ready to approach the lane? This stuff is more than likely smiled at by the PBA brass as it creates attention to the game that they don't have to pay for!! Now, settle down!!!!!


TDC....no argument on the bottle stuff.  That was all Belmo's fault.  In a team competition like that, I actually found Rash's reaction amusing, if not slightly over the top.  Actually, I think Petulant Petey's reaction likely stemmed in part from his friendship with rash.

As for the PBA Brass can smile at stuff all they want.  They are under the sad misconception that all publicity is good publicity.  Bowling is viewed as a complete joke by most of America...certainly not as a sport.  Interest and player earnings are in the gutter due primarily to the economy but also in no small part to the fact that bowling is viewed as an easy game played by non-athletes.  For comparison, the economy has caused participation in golf to decline.  But because affluent fans take golf so seriously, and those fans are taken so seriously by deep pocketed sponsors pro golfers earning have remained strong.  Petulant Petey's act over a lousy towel just reinforces the joke that bowling is to most of America.  I can see that stuff in the WWE and roller derby.  And no coincidence, WWE is in decline and roller derby is dead.

Good lord...poker gets good ratings and can make people money.  I don't know that bowling ever can again.  Lighthearted celebrity stuff just expands the market.  I have no problem with that.  If I want to see a midget rant and rave over a towel I'll subscribe to the WWE network and look back at old matches.  I won't watch bowling.

As for Petey's Brooklyn whining, you tube is full of a smiling Petey basking in his own Brooklyns.  Since he's such a big WWE fan himself, I say, suck it up tough guy.  He probably remembers WWE's Brooklyn Brawler.  To me, Petulant Petey is the Brooklyn Bawler!

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Re: Shut up Pete Weber (Video evidence)
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2015, 08:19:07 AM »
Remember the one common denominator with this recent incident with the towel and bottle: BELMO.

Now the question is - intentional to get into the minds of others - or just inconsiderate.

Either way, you need to bowl your game, not to worry about what the other person is doing.

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Re: Shut up Pete Weber (Video evidence)
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2015, 08:38:50 AM »
OR just habbit......

Why didn't the guy in the title round say anything when he did it?
Nerves?  Or it wasn't that big of a deal?

See, the only problem I have is Weber was crying when he crossed over for the strike.  There were a few that were not "pretty" for him as well.

Remember the one common denominator with this recent incident with the towel and bottle: BELMO.

Now the question is - intentional to get into the minds of others - or just inconsiderate.

Either way, you need to bowl your game, not to worry about what the other person is doing.

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Re: Shut up Pete Weber (Video evidence)
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2015, 09:33:03 AM »
My other thing is, if they don't want the bowlers placing towels there, why don't they give them a spot to do so.  Once you step on the approach you don't want to step off to get your towel.

It looked like there was a small table right behind the ball return for the bowlers towels and rosin bags.
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Re: Shut up Pete Weber (Video evidence)
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2015, 09:35:50 AM »
Don't forget the incident with Belmo & Muchuga.


After a long, lonely drive home from New Jersey, I have had plenty of time to relax and reflect on a solid, yet disappointing week at the Masters. There has been much talk on social media about some “situations” that occurred during the tournament. The ones that involve me are related to my match with Jason Belmonte. Here are the facts as I remember them:
Jason needed a double in the 10th frame of the 3rd game to shut me out. He failed to do so giving me the opportunity to throw a double to win the match. As most people know, I tend to take a little more time in pressure situations to gather myself before making the shot. Throughout my pre-shot routine, Jason was talking to himself, loud enough for me to hear him, as the approach is only just a few feet away. It seemed like he was done, so I attempted to get on the approach when he started again. I looked back at him to try to give him an idea that I could hear it, and he continued….. Finally, I had had enough, so I asked him, sternly, “Are you done yet?! Cuz it’s MY turn now.” He then scampered away seemingly very irritated, while mumbling something about how he can’t even use a pencil to write the scores down, and he was just “adding up the scores” (that were clearly visible on the scoring monitor above.) I had to shake-off his temper tantrum so I could actually make my first shot in the 10th. I aced that one and after getting a little jacked up, I took a little more time, again, to calm myself down and prepare for the next one to win the match. Things didn’t feel quite right and I could hear some of the construction going on for the TV set next to us, so I stepped away and started over. At this point, you could hear an ant’s footsteps in the bowling center. As I got into my approach, I was distracted by someone coughing, so I balked and had to restart, again…..Unfortunately, I was not successful, went high and left the 6-10 to let Jason win.
I have since been told that the person who coughed was a young girl that was attending her first PBA event and feels terrible about it happening. She is scared to come back to another event. I have been contacted by a person that knows her, and I plan on doing something special for her, as we (bowling in general) need to keep every fan that we have.
Shortly after the match, Jason approached me outside the locker room and asked me to go for a walk with him. We went outside and he began explaining how irate he was that he continues to put himself in those situations. After a couple minutes of listening to his rant, I asked him, “Belmo, is this an attempt at an apology?” He replied that it was and continued rambling, blah blah blah, so I told him, “Apology accepted. Good match,” shook his hand and walked away. End of story. But, in his feeble attempt at an apology, never once did he use the words “I’m sorry.” Instead, he said things like he’s so irate that he puts himself in these situations… as if this were all about him….so, if he was sorry about anything, it sure sounded to me like he was sorry only that he found himself in another version of “Bottlegate”.
Unintentional as he makes it sound, I cannot ignore the fact that this has happened in many different ways to opponents of his in the past. Crinkling water bottles, rocking in squeaky chairs, and talking behind your opponent (to no one) are not things that a professional should be doing while their opponent has a chance to perform to beat him. There is no defense in bowling and a true professional does all they can to AVOID such situations.
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Re: Shut up Pete Weber (Video evidence)
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2015, 10:28:14 AM »
Good lord...poker gets good ratings and can make people money.  I don't know that bowling ever can again.  Lighthearted celebrity stuff just expands the market.  I have no problem with that.  If I want to see a midget rant and rave over a towel I'll subscribe to the WWE network and look back at old matches.  I won't watch bowling.

You do know you just ruined your whole point by bring up poker don't you? The biggest winners in poker or some of the loudest crybabies ever....in fact Phil Helmuth embraces it so much he calls himself the "Poker Brat". Half of the interest in watching poker on TV is to see Helmuth blow up, or to see Mike Matusow go off on someone....the list goes on and on. So maybe instead of whining like a child yourself....you can grow up and realize that Weber is one of the greatest bowlers of all time. He plays a version of himself on TV. He usually bowls better when he is "upset" over something, it just didn't work this time. How much press did bowling and the PBA get over "Who do you think you are? I AM!" a few years ago? It made Sportscenter, regular news programs, etc.. Didn't see you complaining then? Or you can just continue to call Pete Weber names, like a petualant child, and your next rant can be about yourself.  ::)
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Re: Shut up Pete Weber (Video evidence)
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2015, 11:24:16 AM »
I have to say that I don't like either one of those guys. Belmo is strictly "bush league" with a history of that kind of behavior but I also don't like the yelling at your opponent when you throw a double and then whining to the tournament director.  If I were Pete I would done an "Ernie McKracken" and wiped my arm pit with his towel.  If somebody thinks they are getting in your head they will keep on doing it.

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Re: Shut up Pete Weber (Video evidence)
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2015, 12:18:21 PM »
I re watched the match and tried to keep my eye on the ball return during each players shots when it was in view. The 1 and only time Belmos towel was directly on Petes ball was when the camera zoomed in on it later in the match.

I believe many players keep their towel and rosin bags on or around the ball return, you can see AJ use a towel and toss it back onto the ball rack during his match. I believe many players do this and it is accepted widely by most players such as when Pete did it during that older match. I believe that Weber decided right of the bat that he would complain about Belmo breaking this "rule" in an attempt to have a director instruct Belmo not to do it, and when Belmo complies, Pete will have altered Belmos pre shot routine. I also believe that later in the match when Belmo put the towel right on top of Petes ball, it was his way of saying "Quit your bitching"

The whole brooklyn thing drives me nuts about how Pete acted and how every single person in bowling acts about it. You can be frustrated or a little miffed by your opponent doing that but come on! We have all had that happen to us in the other way. If Belmo would have fist pumped and said something (Like Pete did in the clip against O'Neill) then I would see Petes beef. Belmo didn't, he walked back and got ready for the next shot realizing he caught a fortunate break.

Plus, Weber apparently didn't like it when Larsen got excited after a strike, good grief this was just embarrassing for bowling. I like emotion and really wanting it but the child like nature from Pete Weber left me shaking my head and feeling this was yet another down moment for bowling popularity in the United States. There were some great storylines and great bowling but Pete had to steal the moment with his petulant behavior and that is the most upsetting thing.

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Re: Shut up Pete Weber (Video evidence)
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2015, 12:31:48 PM »
Funny, has no one here EVER watched an NBA game? A professional Soccer Match? NFL game? professional Tennis?

How is THIS bad for bowling when this kind of immature cry-babying crap goes on in EVERY major sport and they are not just doing fine, they seem to be thriving.
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Re: Shut up Pete Weber (Video evidence)
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2015, 12:36:12 PM »
Funny, has no one here EVER watched an NBA game? A professional Soccer Match? NFL game? professional Tennis?

How is THIS bad for bowling when this kind of immature cry-babying crap goes on in EVERY major sport and they are not just doing fine, they seem to be thriving.

Because they have already built a fan base and have more credibility. This is the ONLY stuff that gets PBA in the news. That's not good, it's ok if that is also in the news but performance needs to be the lead story.

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Re: Shut up Pete Weber (Video evidence)
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2015, 01:12:17 PM »
Funny, has no one here EVER watched an NBA game? A professional Soccer Match? NFL game? professional Tennis?

How is THIS bad for bowling when this kind of immature cry-babying crap goes on in EVERY major sport and they are not just doing fine, they seem to be thriving.

Because people generalize when they don't know the whole picture, and 99% of America doesn't know the PBA.

When a football or baseball player does something childish, like for instance, Richard Sherman ranting about Crabtree to Erin Andrews, do we comment that all football players are a-holes? No, we comment that Richard Sherman is an a-hole.

On the flip side, every 4 years when the world cup comes around and someone flops, do we blame the player? No, we say "this is why I never watch soccer, everyone flops all the time".

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Re: Shut up Pete Weber (Video evidence)
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2015, 01:15:01 PM »
Funny, has no one here EVER watched an NBA game? A professional Soccer Match? NFL game? professional Tennis?

How is THIS bad for bowling when this kind of immature cry-babying crap goes on in EVERY major sport and they are not just doing fine, they seem to be thriving.

Because people generalize when they don't know the whole picture, and 99% of America doesn't know the PBA.

When a football or baseball player does something childish, like for instance, Richard Sherman ranting about Crabtree to Erin Andrews, do we comment that all football players are a-holes? No, we comment that Richard Sherman is an a-hole.

On the flip side, every 4 years when the world cup comes around and someone flops, do we blame the player? No, we say "this is why I never watch soccer, everyone flops all the time".

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Re: Shut up Pete Weber (Video evidence)
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2015, 02:04:06 PM »
People that towel thing is a easy fix.I once had a guy putting his rosin bag on my ball. The first time he did it I asked nicely to please stop.The second (which was the very next frame)he did it I told him it will go in the trash.The third time it went in the Trash !!
 Problem solved,not to mention he hasn't done it since to any bodies ball

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Re: Shut up Pete Weber (Video evidence)
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2015, 02:11:24 PM »
People that towel thing is a easy fix.I once had a guy putting his rosin bag on my ball. The first time he did it I asked nicely to please stop.The second (which was the very next frame)he did it I told him it will go in the trash.The third time it went in the Trash !!
 Problem solved,not to mention he hasn't done it since to any bodies ball

I think on the telecast Randy stated something about if it were him he would throw it six lanes over, lol.