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Russell

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Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« on: December 23, 2010, 09:51:01 AM »
**ON EDIT - This post is directed at the idiots who complained...NOT Brunswick...I think Brunswick is great, especially this center where I ran the shop years ago**

So today I went and practiced around lunchtime.  I''m going to the desk to shovel over some free game passes when a sign posted catches my eye.

"We''ve listened to your feedback.  A number of you have stated you would practice more if the lanes weren''t so dry.  So starting Jan 4th we will be stripping and oiling the lanes twice daily, in the morning and in the evenings before league"

So....let me make sure I understand...

I have bowled in this house for years.  The shot is NEVER very dry after league is done at night.  At worst I am playing around 17/18 at the arrows in a 5 man team men''s league.  There is PLENTY of oil....

So now to be able to "practice"...we need to be able to play the same line we''re playing in league...all of the time?

We wonder why competitive bowling is going in the p**ser?  People won''t "practice"...because the lanes are dry?  So practice is just chucking your new hook-in-a-box hard and fast up 9 and quitting after 4 games when it dries up?

Can''t believe people actually b**ch about this stuff....


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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2010, 08:47:42 AM »
I'm a senior and bowl with many seniors older then myself.  We bowl on a house shot and not an extremely easy shot, but fair, oil a little on the shorter side.

But some dasys we go in to practice and the lanes are extemely dry probalbly left over from the night before.  Now for some of us older bowlers, probably some youngers one also, bowling on lanes that are dry, much more then we're use to, makes us try to relase the ball differently and with more velocity then what our bodies really want to do.  So oiling twice a day is good payback to the bowlers that both practice and bowl league in the house.


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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2010, 08:48:28 AM »
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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2010, 08:52:14 AM »
Most bowlers that bowl in our center want to play straight down 10 no moving of the feet and don't make me think and try to do that adjusting thingy!!!! lol I hear to dry outside, to wet inside, no backend, to much backend and the funny thing is when you want them bowl they don't hit the same area twice. I've heard more bowlers who are 200+ tell me in the last month that they just throw to an area and if it's to dry in that area they have trouble adjusting or finding where to play! May I suggest trying a pba experience league or kegel challenge league? The one's that have tried these league usually quit after a few weeks cause they can't shoot huge numbers or they have to move to find the shot to play!!!! Just my $.02, Bruce
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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2010, 08:54:21 AM »
Players that want a challenge will practice on poor conditions those that don't won't.  

My ONLY issue is when they want high dollar for practice time.  Other than that prefer poor conditions to see how my ball reaction is vs. easy oiled conditions to mask the ball reaction.  

I don't practice for score anyway.
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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2010, 10:05:14 AM »
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WTF???? Now we are complaining about lane conditions we practice on? Give me a break. Not directed at you, Russell. I''m reading Falco''s and Nicanor''s posts and my eyes are bleeding.
 


I''m willing to see this in your perspective .. please show me where the complaint is in the following description! Thanks!

PS I see by your profile you are a great guy .. so MERRY CHRISTMAS to you and your friends!




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Well I guess I picture it that during league (3 games) I just couldn''t get the ball I was using to react the way I expected .. if I go back and practice perhaps I can try things I couldn''t within the 3 games of league.

But I guess that kind of thinking doesn''t hold up if I did outstanding in league! The question is .. do most league bowlers do outstanding during league or do they want to practice on the same condition to improve?

I guess it can be looked at a number of ways!
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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2010, 10:47:04 AM »
Can't speak for any centers other than the ones I frequent. I know that my home center only oils before leagues. Now on Thursday there is no league, so not fresh condition. The Wednesday league had more oil than the regular leagues so left overs weren't to bad. Lately the Wednesday had been drier, so practice on Thursday was more difficult. Go to Saturday or Sunday and Friday night gets the Mixed league pattern which is very dry outside. I love to practice on the weekends or would and would more if I could use something other than my weakest equipment and kill the ball to hit the pocket. Oh and with holidays. Our lanes will not be ran from the past Wednesday until next Monday night unless they have the league on Sunday.

I have always felt that at least on Saturday they should run the lanes since no league is held until Sunday night. If for no other reason than to protect the surface. Running them every day, seems like a waste of money in most cases. I could also see them running fresh on Thursday night and promoting that the shot will be fresh for practice. I would even part of the lanes with the Classic leagus shot and the others with the standard. I know that not a lot of "league bowlers" would take advantage of the fresh practice conditions, but maybe if just a couple pair were fresh and word got around. Maybe?
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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2010, 12:05:07 PM »
The Grudge,

What a joke you are. This is just bowling.  Bowling is just about as meaningless  as  your reply.

The strength, flexibility as well as other factors into senior bowling.  Who do you think fill the bowling centers the most during the day.  It won''''''''t be very many bowlers with 750 rev rate, 12 800''''''''s and a ton of 300''''''''s.  For weekends when the house if full of recreational bowlers I could see not prepping the lanes (except it might save the lanes a little bit) but there is nothing wrong with wanting to practice on your league shot.  Not everyone wants to be a member of the PBA.


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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2010, 12:18:59 PM »
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Please read my second reply...I'm not directing this towards something that Brunswick has done wrong...I'm directing this at the morons who complained.


If the lanes were too dry then getting more oil to practise on is a good thing..

I get that you think practise shouldn't matter what your bowling on, but you realistically cant practise playing some shots if there is no oil.

Practising on oil is better than practising on no oil.  I dont bother to practise anymore in my local center because I find no advantage of practising on try lanes.

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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2010, 12:39:03 PM »
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If the lanes were too dry then getting more oil to practise on is a good thing..

I get that you think practise shouldn't matter what your bowling on, but you realistically cant practise playing some shots if there is no oil.

Practising on oil is better than practising on no oil.  I dont bother to practise anymore in my local center because I find no advantage of practising on try lanes.

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on that i have to agree, for us who wants to practice different lines on the lanes, we need oil to do so, if theres none, then no point spending money for nothing.

now, extra comments, its good that the center decides to oil before league, so u guys get a consistent pattern week in and out, so more scores after all.

and its not even new that people bowling the sport shot leagues complaining that they cant score and they are losing money because they cant play their beloved second arrow.

now Russell, i say, let those bowlers complain all they want, u wont change the way it is, b**chin about others b**chin is a waste of time
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Russell

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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2010, 01:05:48 PM »
As I stated above...the center puts down plenty of volume in the middle...so the lanes are not toasted by any stretch the next day.

On Wednesday night they have two shifts of league.  This is the most traffic they see and if you came in the next morning you might have to play 3rd arrow if you're a straight player.  I am usually looking around 22 or 23 at the arrows.

Like I said...they've always done the lanes on Sat and Sun mornings...during the week they leave them alone...but they aren't that dry.
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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2010, 01:25:36 PM »
that's pretty funny acutally.

I wish my house would post a sign that said:


"We''ve listened to your feedback. A number of you have stated the lanes are too F-ing dry. So starting Jan 4th we will actually put oil on the lanes before league"

I'm not opposed to a difficult shot, but all I ask (and have asked) is enough to get the ball through the heads...

haha.  AMF says, thanks for the input.  We are going to raise lineage and put down less next week..  Sheesh!

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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2010, 01:32:39 PM »
Russell--I don't understand the difference--enough other bowlers were complaining about the shot-it changed-now you are complaining about the shot.
Difference?
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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2010, 01:35:22 PM »
I've been practicing at least once a week for over 15 years and appreciate it when the powers-to-be clean and oil the lanes on a daily basis in addition to doing the lanes for league that evening. It can be frustrating when you don't have a readable and reliable lane condition when practicing.
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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #29 on: December 24, 2010, 03:25:36 PM »
Practicing the next day on lanes that had league bowling on properly oiled lanes the previous night don't bother me.

Practicing on lanes that haven't been oiled for a couple of days and are as dry as the paved parking lot does bother me because I never bowl on that condition anywhere I bowl, so trying to practice on that condition serves no purpose and is useless to me.
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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #30 on: December 24, 2010, 05:19:36 PM »
What's it matter what you practice on?

Say the league shot is given to you to practice on.. Lanes transition.. Do you adjust?  Or just complain the shot is not there any more?

REAL bowlers adjust..  

Should all bowling centers cater to those who don't want to adjust and WHINE
all the time 'cause THEIR shot isn't there?

This is why bowling is a joke..
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