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Russell

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Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« on: December 23, 2010, 09:51:01 AM »
**ON EDIT - This post is directed at the idiots who complained...NOT Brunswick...I think Brunswick is great, especially this center where I ran the shop years ago**

So today I went and practiced around lunchtime.  I''m going to the desk to shovel over some free game passes when a sign posted catches my eye.

"We''ve listened to your feedback.  A number of you have stated you would practice more if the lanes weren''t so dry.  So starting Jan 4th we will be stripping and oiling the lanes twice daily, in the morning and in the evenings before league"

So....let me make sure I understand...

I have bowled in this house for years.  The shot is NEVER very dry after league is done at night.  At worst I am playing around 17/18 at the arrows in a 5 man team men''s league.  There is PLENTY of oil....

So now to be able to "practice"...we need to be able to play the same line we''re playing in league...all of the time?

We wonder why competitive bowling is going in the p**ser?  People won''t "practice"...because the lanes are dry?  So practice is just chucking your new hook-in-a-box hard and fast up 9 and quitting after 4 games when it dries up?

Can''t believe people actually b**ch about this stuff....


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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #31 on: December 24, 2010, 06:04:16 PM »
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Do you really think I would tell you a-holes anything factual about me? I have nothing but utter contempt for the majority of you.
 

That's from your profile (The Grudge).. once reading that I have a difficult time exchanging with you I'd prefer you NOT talk directly to me .. Thank you!

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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #32 on: December 24, 2010, 09:35:39 PM »
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If the lanes were too dry then getting more oil to practise on is a good thing..

I get that you think practise shouldn't matter what your bowling on, but you realistically cant practise playing some shots if there is no oil.

Practising on oil is better than practising on no oil.  I dont bother to practise anymore in my local center because I find no advantage of practising on try lanes.

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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #33 on: December 24, 2010, 11:26:52 PM »
The Grudge,

I don''t know or care how old you are.  But after reading your profile and post, it doesn''t make a difference, I think you''re pretty immature.

Why practice on a shot you''ll never see unless its somewhat close?  Why bowl on an extreme dry lane unless you know you''re going to see it in the 2nd shift or something similar?

I''ve bowled a 10 gamer that I had to use a pink Hammer and almost everyone else used a plastic ball.  Until I''m ready to bowl on those conditions competitively again, I don''t need to practice on them.  I believe bowlers with consistent averages and scores bowl enough to have developed great muscle memory.  How can you develop great muscle memory if you''re practicing on an oil/lane condition that you will never bowl on competitively?




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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #34 on: December 25, 2010, 04:10:50 AM »
wish brunswick would buy our 2 p.o.s amf houses... my idea of practice is subbing!  LOL
amf dont have porters now so the counters, pits, floors(concourse) parking lot, windows, YOU NAME IT...its F'n D I R T Y!! theres even giant lint balls in the gutters!!  LOL

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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #35 on: December 25, 2010, 04:44:00 AM »
I think the point I was trying to make was, that, if they put out a decent amount of oil you can practise ANY aspect of your game... on no oil you cant.

Dont read that as wanting to just "practise striking on your usual league shot", it doesnt really matter what pattern is down, as long as there's enough oil to throw a proper shot on.

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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #36 on: December 25, 2010, 05:37:18 AM »
I bowl in two different houses and much prefer one of them (matches up better with my delivery), so I also practice more there.

That's a bad thing, in a way, cause it increases my ability to deal with variatons in the oil pattern at the house where I am already more proficient, when I would be better off praticing more at the other one.

However...  to tie this all together, the "good" house (for me) is an independent and the tougher one (for me) is a Brunswick Zone. And one of teh reasons I dont bother to practice as much at the Brusnwick (aside from preferring an ego boost from better results) is that the condition there during non-league practice sessions is nothing like what I encounter there in my league.

Thus.... the announcment -----IF they stick to it, would be a good thing for me, as I just might be more inclined to go there and practice more. And, of course that that would also be a good thing for them.

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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #37 on: December 25, 2010, 07:53:57 AM »
Modern bowling balls require at least SOME oil for them to work properly. Otherwise it's a waste of time to bowl on lanes that are lacking any oil.

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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #38 on: December 25, 2010, 11:21:16 AM »
Merry Christmas Grudge .. Good bye .. opps .. Happy 2011 .. hope your life turns around!
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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #39 on: December 25, 2010, 01:13:32 PM »
The Grudge,

It seems like you know about a little of my past on Ballreviews.  I have lodged some complaints about Lane 1 bowling balls.  But what you didn't mention was that during the Lane 1/Brunswick era I was a total Lane 1 supporter.  It was the change to Lane 1/Columbia that I didn't match up with and I called them out for their advertising.

Again you don't know much about my past because I played football for Navy, a member of the Navy boxing team in my early years and in my later years I was on the middle weight and heavy weight weightlifting team at the same time and captain of the Blue Navy bowling team.  I know a little bit about the gym.

I've bowled a couple of PBA events and that was enough to tell me I didn't have the financial resores or the skill level to compete with the upper talent on the PBA tour.

So I ask now, what is serious about bowling. We can do our best, practice, but at what end.  League bowling in just a past time for about 99 percent of us.

I've bowled with great senior bowlers in Detroit and other places around the world, but a smart person knows that most seniors aren't going to throw the ball 18 mph with a rev rate of even 300.  Most seniors bowl three and out, especially if the lanes are dry.  You get dry lanes and 60+ year old bowlers, for the most part, their bowling ball is going to roll/hook out or the ball will be uncontrollable.  So I'm not saying the seniors should not practice or bowl on difficult shots, I'm just saying that a majority of the seniors need some head oil to help project the ball down the lane.

Life is serious, bowling is not.


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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #40 on: December 25, 2010, 04:30:54 PM »
DID ANYONE ACTUALLY READ THE PART WHERE THERE IS PLENTY OF OIL LAID DOWN ALREADY?  NO...OF COURSE NOT...PLENTY OF OIL TO MOST LEAGUE HACKS MEANS "I CAN KEEP HAMMERING IT UP 9 ALL DAY AND ONLY COMPLAIN WHEN I CAN'T GET THE 10 OUT...

READ THE POST PEOPLE...STOP RESPONDING WITHOUT READING IT...THE LANES HAVE PLENTY OF OIL TO PRACTICE...WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT FRIDAY NIGHT OPEN PLAY...JESUS CHRIST

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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #41 on: December 25, 2010, 04:47:43 PM »
I read it Russell and responded in like mind.  I am sure you can move in and find some oil BUT THB's are ONLY in their element when I can stand on so and so board and roll the ball on so and so trajectory.  One dimensional bowlers.

How do you practice different lines when a oiled THS lane condition is put down?  Once the track is burnt out you need to move into 3rd-4th arrow and beyond.  You learn how to project the ball with a softer hand take the hit out and still get the ball to finish with other layouts/surfaces/ball speeds.  That is practice to me.  

Read riggs blog on his tourney win at a lil Christmas Eve Day soiree`.  4th and 5th arrow at the end.  How does one get good at rolling 4th/5th arrow practicing on an oiled house shot?    http://host.madison.com/sports/recreation/bowling/article_4dfff3e2-1053-11e0-8c91-001cc4c002e0.html
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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #42 on: December 25, 2010, 05:54:59 PM »
Russell, I think we all read the post... but people's idea of how much oil is down differs... I would imagine that if enough people raised the point about the volume of oil for the bowling center to take this step then at least the majority of the bowlers in the center, if not you personally, felt that there wasn't enough oil down, and hence the comments made in this thread.

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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #43 on: December 25, 2010, 06:00:45 PM »
Ryan,

We might have gotten off topic a little, but if we didn't, this wouldn't be Ballreviews


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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #44 on: December 25, 2010, 09:00:08 PM »
Easy Russ, you will get your blood pressure up again.

btw I read the original post, and what is "Plenty" of oil in the middle varies for each bowler and for that matter, each house.
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Re: Sign seen in a Brunswick center today
« Reply #45 on: December 26, 2010, 08:25:21 PM »
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For weekends when the house if full of recreational bowlers I could see not prepping the lanes (except it might save the lanes a little bit) but there is nothing wrong with wanting to practice on your league shot.  Not everyone wants to be a member of the PBA.




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