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DragonLord

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smoking ban
« on: October 26, 2008, 01:06:33 PM »
I live in Fond Du Lac WI. But Here is my question Fond Du Lac just passed this bill no smoking in restaurants,Bowling alleys, and work places. The people who smoke and bowl will bowling alleys take a major drop in leauges? How far will they take this smoking ban? Will they start telling people no smoking in there homes and cars? For me I love bowling. But I'm afraid that this will cause allot of bowlers to stop bowling because they can't smoke and well there goes the leauges and maybe bowling alleys. And please don't say what are a smoker no I ain't a smoker but If people are going to smoke they will do it whether there is a ban or not. Cops are going to have hard time checking every place to see who is complain and who Ain't.

 

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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2008, 09:50:22 AM »
Scott, thanks for the heads-up.  Its good to see some communities taking iniative before the State does.  The problem comes in the smaller towns that implement it and a neighboring town does not.  You will see an influx of people going to the area that allows smoking.  That effect was seen here in MN when a few counties in the Twin Cities held a ban and others didn't.

Do you know if La Crosse has put a ban on yet?  I'll be down there bowling this weekend.
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Re: smoking ban
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2008, 09:59:00 AM »
WSUstroker is correct. We lost a men's league that had been established for over 30 years because there are houses that allow smoking within just a few miles. I'm caught in the middle. I hate smoking and I love bowling. I wish the ban was state wide. Most smokers won't quit bowling because they can't smoke but they will drive a few more miles in order to smoke.

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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2008, 10:20:44 AM »
Im all for the freedom thing, believe me I really am, but the smoking ban is acceptable because your smoking has negative effects on the people around you. If it only affected you, like alcohol, then it wouldn't be an issue.

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Re: smoking ban
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2008, 10:29:35 AM »
Every public place should be smoke free. What you do in your own car or home is up to you. But why should someone else have to put up with it. Everyone has to breath, but you choose to smoke. I don't understand the crying. Go outside.

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Re: smoking ban
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2008, 03:40:12 PM »
Hey guys but thats what im talking about. Im a smoking and ban sucks but bigger problem in my eyes is what is next. It went from smoking were ever to smoking non smoking section to now no smoking. Whats next cant go out and have a drink because someone thinks its bad? Whats next can drive your favorite car because someone thinks its bad? Whats next cant have a camp fire because someone thinks it bad?  Yes those are all things people love to do and are legal right now but who knows. Are you willing to give up 1 of ur favorite activites NON SMOKERS because someone thinks it wrong. I would have no problem with smoking ban in resturant or even by the lanes. But to ban smoking threw out whole state is BS.  what happen to ur freedom of choice?
Like i said before my main problem is someone playing GOD with my life. NO suit should be able to chose what we can do if its legal

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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2008, 06:16:41 PM »
I live in Texas and we rarely pass any state laws so it is left to the cities and districts to pass laws such as these. So far, cities one by one in Dallas/Fort Worth are going no smoking. People will just have to get used to it. To be honest, since I used to be a smoker I understand. But if you can't wait a few hours or if needed go outside after a 10th frame to smoke then you have a bigger problem then you realize.
Once you quit if your like me, you can't stand being around cigarettes. I wish it was banned everywhere. But I have to probably wait 10 years for my local suburb bowling alley to pass a no smoking law.

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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2008, 06:42:11 PM »
In WA there was a huge outcry as the was talked about and again when it passed. Combined in my 3 leagues we lost ONE bowler due to the smoking ban.  I expected about 6 or 7 guys to share the attitude that "if I can't smoke, I can't bowl".   All but one adjusted to the new regulations.

I wouldn't worry too much about it, because if they want to bowl they will have to deal with the ban.
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« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2008, 06:46:44 PM »
The state of Ohio went Non-Smokintg several years ago. The same arguments were heard from all at that time... but the bowlers and alleys adapted to the new conditions, is that not part of the game?

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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2008, 07:07:31 PM »
Ill say it again guys im a smoke and ban sucks but im looking at the big picture. What are you willing to give up next ????

Ok you allowed the suits to  make some crazy law. NON smokers love it but smokers hate it.  Now what if they come up with some crazy law that you cant eat meat outside ur house anymore. How many people would allow it. Only the vegetarians. Stupid law isn't it but thats the chance your taking by letting them tell you how to live

Welcome to the future NON smokers of stupid laws

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« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2008, 09:49:27 PM »
I would say that's nonsense but there is some mild truth to that. I don't know about food but about the cigarettes there are health zealots that I have heard want smoking banned to the point you can go to prison if you smoke in your own home and a child is present.

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« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2008, 11:23:59 PM »
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Ill say it again guys im a smoke and ban sucks but im looking at the big picture. What are you willing to give up next ????

Ok you allowed the suits to make some crazy law. NON smokers love it but smokers hate it. Now what if they come up with some crazy law that you cant eat meat outside ur house anymore. How many people would allow it. Only the vegetarians. Stupid law isn't it but thats the chance your taking by letting them tell you how to live

Welcome to the future NON smokers of stupid laws  


What part of second hand smoke don't you understand?  http://www.mysmokefreestory.com/secondhand.php

It's about the FREEDOM of ALL to enjoy smoke free air!

I don't force you to drink at a bar or a bowling center...don't force me to breathe your smoke!


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ucumin2

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« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2008, 11:33:43 PM »
Scott. Here think about anything in ur life that you like doing. Now someone who you don't no has a problem with it. Person passes a law saying you can't do it anymore. That's the point I'm making.  Your suppose 2 have freedom 2 do as you please when things are legal. Now with this law ur not free anymore.

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« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2008, 11:41:00 PM »
Sorry, I don't buy it ucumin2.  There are many freedoms that we enjoy and many are regulated.  

You can't drive a car without a license.  You can't vote <well maybe you can in Ohio> if a felon. Etc, etc.

With responsibility comes limits of what one can do it's part of life. It's part of being a responsible human being living together on this planet.





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Re: smoking ban
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2008, 12:00:55 AM »
I, as a non smoker, enjoyed the smokey alleys before the ban took place here. Just seems like a part of bowling's character is now gone.

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« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2008, 12:12:14 AM »
When it started here in the twin cities a few years ago, one county was smoke free, another was not (the center we bowled league in was smoke free, the center I worked in the pro shop you could still smoke). The league bowlers in the smoke free house stayed and those who smoked (myself at the time) went outside after a game for a quick one and after league. Once the state went smoke free all centers did not lose many "smoking bowlers", yet some centers put in a smoking area where bowlers and bar patrons could go outside for one while still bringing their drink (outside patio area at the center I am at). Some businesses saw an increase in league and open bowling due to no smoking inside and the bar retained most if not all its regular customers. Now a few years have passed and it has become a non issue. Kinda sucks in the dead of winter when someone goes outside to smoke and its -10 outside but thats one of the reasons why I quit (main reason was my daughter but no smoking inside a center/bar was another reason).

Hey Dragonlord, can you still smoke in the Hudson bowler or has that gone smoke free as well? Going over there for the marathon in Feburary, interested to see what their status was.

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