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DragonLord

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smoking ban
« on: October 26, 2008, 01:06:33 PM »
I live in Fond Du Lac WI. But Here is my question Fond Du Lac just passed this bill no smoking in restaurants,Bowling alleys, and work places. The people who smoke and bowl will bowling alleys take a major drop in leauges? How far will they take this smoking ban? Will they start telling people no smoking in there homes and cars? For me I love bowling. But I'm afraid that this will cause allot of bowlers to stop bowling because they can't smoke and well there goes the leauges and maybe bowling alleys. And please don't say what are a smoker no I ain't a smoker but If people are going to smoke they will do it whether there is a ban or not. Cops are going to have hard time checking every place to see who is complain and who Ain't.

 

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Re: smoking ban
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2008, 09:32:55 PM »
Thats what I wanted to hear and no me not crying about it. It just shocked me how they had this big meeting and every place stated that they would lose business. So I see no deal but thats me K.

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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2008, 09:38:19 PM »
California has been smoking free for YEARS now, as long as I can remember.

It doesn't matter. You step outside and have a cig between games. That's how it works, and how I've always remembered it working. I wish the entire nation would just put that ban up.
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Re: smoking ban
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2008, 09:47:09 PM »
Dragonlord. Here in Illinois the smoking ban hasn't dropped league bowling as much as economy has. Most leagues out here have a 10 min break between games because of law. The only drop alley has seen is liquor sales. Instead of drinking afterwards people go 2 bar near by were they have a smoking room. How it will affect you guys out there just depends on the bowlers

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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2008, 10:20:29 PM »
Here in New Mexico, leagues have increased for the most part, but proprietors were correct saying they'd lose money.  Bar breaks after bowling have become almost nonexistent for the smoking crowd.  I've seen snackbar prices go up in three local centers to try to compensate for the lower bar take.

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Re: smoking ban
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2008, 02:35:17 AM »
CA and WA have had non smoking in public buildings for as long as I can remember.  And CA took a hit when the smoking ban was first instated.  But the die hard smokers still smoked and still bowled.  They just smoked outside the doors and came back in between games.  It does mean that you cannot chain smoke through league.  

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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2008, 06:03:56 AM »
Everybody worried about a drop in participation..... of the smoking bowler. Never happened. People deal with it.

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Re: smoking ban
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2008, 07:41:34 AM »
i wish my alley would go smoke free

there is the first round of poor me for smokers, but they get over it, and actually it does increase #'s.

smokers are in the minority

non smokers h8 bowling because the smoke is so thick

my wife has real bad asthma and we used to bowl leagues together, but she just couldnt take it anymore so she quit

all because of the smoke.

i know many other people who have breathing related problems who would love to be at the center, but cant bowl the heavy smoke leagues.

and yes i do smoke, but i wish my center would go smoke free

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Re: smoking ban
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2008, 07:47:24 AM »
In Wichita all the centers went smoke free in August 2008.

I have not noticed any issues or drop of bowlers but it is still early yet.

But I like going home afterwards and not smelling like smoke.

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Re: smoking ban
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2008, 08:15:47 AM »
Dragonlord, is this something that just Fond Du Lac is putting in or the entire state of WI?  If it is just within the city, you may see a drop in league from bowlers going to a city that does not have the ban.  If it is statewide, I wouldn't expect it to drop too much.
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2008, 08:27:07 AM »
Appleton and Oshkosh and fond Du lac are no smoking. The reason i brought up the subject is not to cause a brew ha but just ask what people thought. I don't smoke K. but I can see where people who don't smoke where it would bother them. But If u saw the meeting that fond Du lac had where owners plead about they lose there business and there lively hood. That is why I asked the question and I did not mean to step on any ones head or toes K. It just seems people who a business act like that smoking is the reason they are in business.

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Re: smoking ban
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2008, 08:35:52 AM »
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Dragonlord, is this something that just Fond Du Lac is putting in or the entire state of WI? If it is just within the city, you may see a drop in league from bowlers going to a city that does not have the ban. If it is statewide, I wouldn't expect it to drop too much.



WSU,

Cheeseland does not have a statewide smoking ban <too bad IMO>.  Individual communities in WI have instituted smoking bans in public places.  Madison, WI where I bowl in 2 different bowling centers has had a smoking ban in effect for 3 years I believe.  I see no difference in particpation other than the average amount of bowlers that have dropped which is true thoughout the land.  

Make it state wide or nationally so there are no islands.  I see that happening some day.  Hopefully sooner than later.


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Re: smoking ban
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2008, 08:41:43 AM »
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But If u saw the meeting that fond Du lac had where owners plead about they lose there business and there lively hood.  


Bar owners, etal/Wis. Tavern League will always say this but in reality very few establishments that are going concerns have been effected.  Smokers still smoke outside or in areas that bowling centers/bars have constructed outside the walls of the building.  <ie. tents w/heaters>.

I also know 3 bowlers that came back to bowling after leaving the sport because the centers went smoke free.
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Re: smoking ban
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2008, 08:49:26 AM »
Iowa passed a smoking ban this year and while I bowl across the border in Sioux Falls (no I do not smoke)those that I have talked to say that it has not affected league play.  The bowling alleys have not lost to bars in Iowa because there is no provision for a smoking room in the law.

The real question I have is how many people have quit bowling in the past because of respiratory ailments like bowlerdawg's wife that would be willing to come back?

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Re: smoking ban
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2008, 09:16:52 AM »
Ill tell you this I feel bad for all the people with breathing problems but when has it become the state or cities priority 2 play god. 2 tell everyone what they can and can't do. When smoking is legal. I don't mind no smoking at restaurants or something like that. But bowling drinking and bars go hand and hand with smoking. Few alleys out here had special times set aside for non smokers and kids. Main problem with law is what will be next?? What other freedom are you ready 2 give up because some suit thinks its wrong.