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302efi

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...with handicap

How in the hell am I suppose to beat that ?


***10/20/08 Update***
I just received this response from USBC about handicap scores going over 300/900 handicap:

" Leagues have the ability to put a cap on handicap scores that would prevent any scores above 300 or 900 from being recorded.

Two years ago at the National convention, delegates voted against a proposal that would do the same thing in tournaments.

In short, leagues would be able to put in place such a rule at the leagues organizational meeting, however, a tournament director may not put such a rule in place "
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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2008, 09:38:12 PM »
Shoot 922.  
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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2008, 09:39:31 PM »
I only get 1 pin a game..lol

So most I can shoot is 903
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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2008, 09:41:13 PM »
I guess you're SOL then.  
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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2008, 09:41:31 PM »
That beats the 908 that an 81 average shot with cap against my team 3 weeks ago.. still cant get over the 342 a game we were giving up a game . Sorry but in handicap leages its bound to happen sorry it happend to you tonight.
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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2008, 09:45:05 PM »
yep I lost to a guy with a 114 ave last time I bowled.BTW I shot a 259 scratch to his 289 with the handicap.it's nice to see how the handicap evens out everything.needless to say I've learned my lesson and now I'm only there for the beer specials.
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302efi

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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2008, 09:46:29 PM »
I think the USBC rules should be changed to NOT allow people to score over the maximum you can shoot scratch.

I mean what if I really would have shot a 900 and I beat by some shooting over that with handicap ? Something not right there at all.

What about if you shoot 300 and shoots over that with handicap ? Noone thinks the rules should changed ?
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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2008, 09:54:35 PM »
the problem is the low ave bowler can't consistantly shoot high scores so they have the handicap or they won't even bother to show up.on the other hand,there is a consistant supply of low average bowlers with the handicap.the solution is either take it like a man or move on to better leagues that have a min cap per team.
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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2008, 09:56:14 PM »
Both of my leagues have a max on the pots as 300 per bowler. One actually went to 220 to base averages because the majority of the league average 200+ and they felt it was unfair to lose to handicap.. and the worst part about it was that I was part of his arguement for the handicap bowlers winning, and his stat pages showed that I beat him scratch to win. The handicaps are floor average based. So the 908 was not as big but any big night with cap is very hard to beat.
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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2008, 09:58:52 PM »
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the solution is either take it like a man or move on to better leagues that have a min cap per team.
 


lol...How are you suppose to "take it like a man" what you shoot a perfect game and get beat ?

Explain how even when you shoot the best possible score in the whole game and get beat by "free pins" and a lucky night ?

Show me some leagues around mt area..actually my whole county, with scratch leagues or team cap leagues  
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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2008, 10:05:14 PM »
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somebody call Guinness, i just agreed with 302. rules that allow someone to score, with handicap, higher than the maximum possible scratch score of 300/900, need to be abolished.

if i shoot 300 scratch, i expect to win UNLESS my opponent also shot 300 scratch, not lose because he shot 215 scratch and 305 handicap.







Totally agree with this:

"if i shoot 300 scratch, i expect to win UNLESS my opponent also shot 300 scratch, not lose because he shot 215 scratch and 305 handicap."

I mean if someone can shoot over the max someone can shoot scratch, something is wrong...lol
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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2008, 10:12:27 PM »
I'm on a team cap league,it's not perfect but it helps.if your team slips below the cap you won't get the extra pins.I feel your pain,feel like takeing up darts or something.on the other mixed league I'm on there's no cap,no ten pin rule,nothing.the bagging is so bad even the 150 ave bowlers are bagging.they all know I'm a 200+ ave bowler and remind me everynight.I can't even shoot a 180 game without hearing it from all the baggers makeing sure I don't slip down in average.I'm basicly there for freinds,beer and practice.
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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2008, 10:20:57 PM »
even if you are only getting 1 pin of handicap and shoot 300 you are over the maximum that a scratch bowler can shoot, so your saying that all handicap should be eliminated?

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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2008, 10:27:05 PM »
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even if you are only getting 1 pin of handicap and shoot 300 you are over the maximum that a scratch bowler can shoot, so your saying that all handicap should be eliminated?


Man your just making it hard..Yo know what I'm talking about

I never said all handicap should be eliminated, what I'm saying is someone shoots 300 scratch, they should not be able to be beat by handicap over 300.

For Gods sake, someone shoots the highest score you can roll and someone getting pins can go over that ? You don't see a problem with that ?
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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2008, 10:34:23 PM »
I've seen it happen a few times,it sucks.but if you are getting 1 pin and shoot a 300 and the other guy is getting 50 pins and shoots a 255,what can you say since you are getting handicap?you know the rules when you joined?I just try to stay in the scratch pots myself.
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