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skrmr

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Using rubbing alcohol between frames.
« on: May 05, 2008, 04:38:47 AM »
Is it legal? I thought it wasn't, but league president said it was. I know it is OK to use on your ball before and after.

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Re: Using rubbing alcohol between frames.
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2008, 06:24:11 PM »
These products are not allowed EVER!!!!!

    *  David Greco Cleaner
    * Dull It - INX Corp.
    * Master Ball Cleaner - Master Industries
    * Power Gel - Tech Line
    * Strike Power - Veterans Products
    * SS-25
    * Ultra Clean - Tenth Frame
    * Varsol
    * Alcohols other than Isopropyl(i.e. Denatured Ethyl Alcohol, etc.)
    * Acetone (nail polish remover)
    * "Armor-All"
    * "Cutex" non-acetone (nail polish remover)
    * WD-40
    * Ethers, Esters and Ketone (MEK)
    * Kerosene, Gasoline, other fuels
    * Most commercial solvents (Xylol, lacquer thinner, mineral spirits, chloro-form, Methyl Hydrate)

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Re: Using rubbing alcohol between frames.
« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2008, 06:25:13 PM »
These products can Only be used BEFORE or AFTER competition....

NOTE: THESE PRODUCTS CONTAIN SOLIDS OR ABRASIVES AND, ALTHOUGH THEY MAY NOT ALTER THE SURFACE HARDNESS OF A BOWLING BALL, CANNOT BE USED DURING USBC CERTIFIED COMPETITION BECAUSE IT WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF RULE 18. HOWEVER, THESE PRODUCTS ARE ALLOWED BEFORE OR AFTER LEAGUE AND/OR TOURNAMENT SESSIONS.

    * #1 Low % of Abrasives – Don Carter
    * #2 Course – Don Carter
    * #3 Medium – Don Carter
    * #4 Fine – Don Carter
    * 1-Step Reactive Resin Ball Cleaner - Ebonite Intrn'l
    * 2-Step Reactive Resin Ball Cleaner - Ebonite Intrn'l
    * 2001 Pro Roll Bowling Ball Polish - Hi-Temp Products Co.
    * 3M Citrus Base Cleaner
    * Ball Buff - Pro Packaging
    * Ball Cleaner & Wax No.III - Grecian Attack
    * Ball Cleaner & Polish - Pro Shops of America
    * Ballshield 1000
    * Ballshield Base Cut & Shine
    * Bowling Ball Cream Cleaner – Strata Products, Inc.
    * Brunswick Ball Polish - Brunswick
    * Brunswick - Rough Buff
    * Captain Bob's X-12 Bowling Ball Wipes
    * Clean Right – Baldy Products
    * Clean Shot – Future Clean Inc.
    * Control-It - Neotac/Neo Technologies
    * Cream Cleaner - The Wax Shop
    * Degree - Columbia
    * Delayed Reaction Ball Polish - Advanced Polishing Products
    * Doc's Magic Bowling Ball Elixir
    * Elite-Performance Polish
    * Factory Finish High Gloss Polish - Brunswick
    * Fast Work – Don Carter
    * Finesse-it II - 3M
    * Go Long – Don Carter
    * Kegel Repel Ball Polish (Matte Finish)
    * Kegel Repel Ball Polish (Medium Gloss)
    * Kegel Repel Ball Polish (High Gloss)
    * Khameleon - Neo Technologies
    * Lane Ice - A.J. Discount Proshop Inc.
    * Naturoll Finish Ball Polish – Life Time Solutions
    * NeoTechnologies - 100% Natural
    * One Grand Products, Inc. - Cream Ball Cleaner, Ball Polish
    * Orange Power Spray & Wipe  -  Steel Fingers Bowling Products
    * Perfect-it II - 3M
    * Power House Extender Polish - Ebonite
    * Power House Factory Finish Polish - Ebonite
    * Power House Quick Sand - Ebonite
    * Power House Particle Polish - Ebonite
    * Reaction Control System Cleaner - Ebonite
    * Reactivation - AMF
    * Reactive Resin Finish Polish - Ebonite Intrn'l
    * Repel Ball Polish - Kegel
    * Restore-It - Neo Technologies
    * Rev-It Polish - Today's Solutions
    * Scotch Brite Scouring Pad
    * Scrubbing Bubbles - Johnson & Johnson
    * SD-20 – Spartan Chemical Co.
    * Super Cherry - Ballshield
    * Sure-Shot Polish - Future Clean Inc.
    * Track-Clean-n-Tacky
    * Ultimate Plus Polish Cleaner - Ultimate Bowling Products Inc.
    * Zapp-It Soft Touch
    * Zapp-It Resinator

NOTE
"The manual application of any lane oil to a bowling ball by a bowler during certified competition is prohibited"


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Re: Using rubbing alcohol between frames.
« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2008, 06:29:17 PM »
beans,

Considering you said your, now Lane#1's Secret sauce contains abrasive, it is odd that it is legal to use during competition.

Same for Reacta Shine - known to have abrasives in it.

This says the USBC doesn't know (or maybe doesn't care) what they're doing or what they're testing. Same situation for Clean & Dull and Clean & Tacky.
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Re: Using rubbing alcohol between frames.
« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2008, 10:25:20 PM »
quote:


The other rule is that you can sand a ball before use in the middle of the match as long as the ball was not in play prior to sanding...

beans



 You can't sand a ball whether it has been in play or not.Once you throw your first ball, even if you pull a fresh ball out of your bag, no adjustments are allowed.

Here's the rule

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 Can abrasives be used during certified competition?

The outer surface of any bowling ball cannot be altered with an abrasive after the start of competition. This includes balls that have not yet been introduced into play.

Further, the start of competition is defined as the point the first ball is thrown by any participant for score. This would allow a bowler to alter the outer surface of a ball during practice and not be in violation of Rule 18.



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Re: Using rubbing alcohol between frames.
« Reply #35 on: May 08, 2008, 12:04:16 AM »
So is dish detergent not necessary when using the hot water method?  Are there any negative effects to using it?  If it works better with it, would Palmolive work as well as Dawn?  Does it matter which type of liquid it is within a given brand(i.e. hand soap vs. grease removal both by Palmolive)?
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Re: Using rubbing alcohol between frames.
« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2008, 02:21:01 AM »
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beans,

Considering you said your, now Lane#1's Secret sauce contains abrasive, it is odd that it is legal to use during competition.

Same for Reacta Shine - known to have abrasives in it.

This says the USBC doesn't know (or maybe doesn't care) what they're doing or what they're testing. Same situation for Clean & Dull and Clean & Tacky.
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Edited on 5/6/2008 6:33 PM


I agree but it may be becasue o fthe consistency of the Sauce. Still looks like Milk and not a gritty polish..
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Re: Using rubbing alcohol between frames.
« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2008, 02:22:33 AM »
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quote:


The other rule is that you can sand a ball before use in the middle of the match as long as the ball was not in play prior to sanding...

beans



 You can't sand a ball whether it has been in play or not.Once you throw your first ball, even if you pull a fresh ball out of your bag, no adjustments are allowed.

Here's the rule

18/2
 Can abrasives be used during certified competition?

The outer surface of any bowling ball cannot be altered with an abrasive after the start of competition. This includes balls that have not yet been introduced into play.

Further, the start of competition is defined as the point the first ball is thrown by any participant for score. This would allow a bowler to alter the outer surface of a ball during practice and not be in violation of Rule 18.



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I stand corrected and appreciate it. You never stop learning in this business. I was told that over 10 years ago and never bothered to follow up on it. This is very good to know...

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Re: Using rubbing alcohol between frames.
« Reply #38 on: May 08, 2008, 03:30:53 AM »
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Most people do sand the ball rough before doing an extraction. Someone said it "opens up the pores."


The proshop where I get my gear do not sand the ball/s before put in Rejuvinator..  They think that the oil extracts better that way..
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Re: Using rubbing alcohol between frames.
« Reply #39 on: May 08, 2008, 03:56:21 AM »
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Most people do sand the ball rough before doing an extraction. Someone said it "opens up the pores."


The proshop where I get my gear do not sand the ball/s before put in Rejuvinator..  They think that the oil extracts better that way..


sandin just increases the surface of the ball this should increase the suirface the oil can get out on.
However using a method with which the oil is removed immediatly I see no need in increasing the surface.


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