Think we'll ever see the US Open return here ? 

http://www.nj.com/somerset/index.ssf/2016/11/bowlero_north_brunswick_rolling_strikes_is_cool_ag.html#incart_m-rpt-2

"Next time I set foot in Carolier it will be a cold day in hell."

I totally agree !   I've moved to Howell Lanes where Johnny P, Parker & Lesley Bohn are regulars in my Monday night league. 

Bowlero -  they left out the "z" 

"Next time I set foot in Carolier it will be a cold day in hell."

I totally agree !   I've moved to Howell Lanes where Johnny P, Parker & Lesley Bohn are regulars in my Monday night league. 

Bowlero -  they left out the "z" 

Those are 3 of the nicest, most talented bowlers to set foot on our earth. When God was handing out "nice", "thoughtful" and "consideration for your fellow human", they were at the head of the line

Don't know that it will succeed.  But, until it fails he will do what he believes in.  In the meantime, that doesn't bode well for league bowlers I know, but it is what it is for now.
For me in your situation if the price per game was affordable,  "rather than never stepping foot in there again", I would practice at Bowlero and bowl league elsewhere as you are currently doing. At least that way you would save a 45 minute drive to where you are bowling league.  But, I realize that's me and not you.

Perhaps the ball manufacturers should consider getting into the business of owning bowling centers. They would certainly cater to league bowlers, because it's the league bowlers who buy their products. There can't be much profit in manufacturing bright orange or lime green plastic balls.

Perhaps the ball manufacturers should consider getting into the business of owning bowling centers. They would certainly cater to league bowlers, because it's the league bowlers who buy their products. There can't be much profit in manufacturing bright orange or lime green plastic balls.

I am not a spokesman for Brunswick, so take this for what it's worth. 

Did you know that Brunswick sold the bowling centers they owned to Bowlmor?  As I recall it was about 85 of them.  For whatever reason the capital side of Brunswick didn't want to own bowling centers anymore.  Perhaps they have watched the declining numbers of league bowlers for the last 20+ years and decided to get out.  Perhaps it was for other reasons because Brunswick Capital owns a successful line of fitness equipment, which would probably be pretty popular in today's society...  Who knows?

There are other ball manufacturers that are very profitable, at least for the time being, and I don't see them out buying bowling centers either.  If the league base continues to shrink then why would they? 

Right now we have X amount of ball companies competing for a shrinking market.  UNLESS the sport can attract new bowlers, presumably from those who start out as open play bowlers, we will continue to shrink in numbers.  That, to me, does not sound like a good long-term investment.

I'm not condoning the poor treatment by poorly run centers at all.  I believe if you're going to be in the bowling business do it right because you can't afford to alienate ANY segment of your customer base, open bowlers or league, because you really need it all to be successful. 

That just stinks, I use to look forward to the PBA and more recently the PWBA US Open tour stop at Carolier to watch and talk to the pros. Now since Carolier/Bowlero have essentially cut the number of lanes for competitive bowling in half, there are now no bowling centers in NJ large enough to accommodate a Professional tour stop. Unless some insanely rich bowling enthusiast feels like opening up a brand new 70+ lane center with an emphasis on competitive league bowling, the closest professional tour stop will be the PWBA Rochester Open in NY state, which is serious hike for anyone in NJ. 

Why not? There are two PWBA stops in No. California. One at Double Decker bowl in Rohnert Park which has 50 lanes and one at Steve Cook's Fireside Lanes in Citrus Heights which has only 32 lanes.

There are also multiple locations with 32 lanes that host PBA Regional and PBA50 stops and when the PBA "tour" was actually a tour, both Harvest Park Bowl(32 lanes) in Brentwood and E.A. Dublin Bowl(40) lanes had multiple tournaments.

Even during the heyday of the PBA tour, the pros bowled tournaments at a few 32 lane houses.

Quote from: milorafferty on November 11, 2016, 10:20:27 AM

Quote from: JPbowling151 on November 11, 2016, 05:18:27 AM

That just stinks, I use to look forward to the PBA and more recently the PWBA US Open tour stop at Carolier to watch and talk to the pros. Now since Carolier/Bowlero have essentially cut the number of lanes for competitive bowling in half, there are now no bowling centers in NJ large enough to accommodate a Professional tour stop. Unless some insanely rich bowling enthusiast feels like opening up a brand new 70+ lane center with an emphasis on competitive league bowling, the closest professional tour stop will be the PWBA Rochester Open in NY state, which is serious hike for anyone in NJ. 

Why not? There are two PWBA stops in No. California. One at Double Decker bowl in Rohnert Park which has 50 lanes and one at Steve Cook's Fireside Lanes in Citrus Heights which has only 32 lanes.

There are also multiple locations with 32 lanes that host PBA Regional and PBA50 stops and when the PBA "tour" was actually a tour, both Harvest Park Bowl(32 lanes) in Brentwood and E.A. Dublin Bowl(40) lanes had multiple tournaments.

Even during the heyday of the PBA tour, the pros bowled tournaments at a few 32 lane houses.

Not for nothing either, but Sun Valley lanes in Lincoln, Nebraska is 32 lanes, while the LPBT/PWBA stop at Maplewood Lanes in Omaha was 40.

That said, it would depend on number of entries into the tournament in proportion to the number of lanes and squads available.

By contrast, the last tournaments at the Showboat/Castaways, including the Firestone TOC used barely a third to half of the lanes available.

BL.

Ah, I did not know that. In that case I guess it would now all depend on whether prospective proprietors want to displace open/league play for a week in order to host a Tour event, and since "Bowlero" agreed to host the 2017 NCAA Women's Bowling Finals, I guess it's possible.