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yo

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2D, Nomad Pearl, or Hy-Road?
« on: July 14, 2009, 03:39:41 AM »
looking for a good medium lane condition ball that i can use on a lot of conditions. basically a go to ball. i have a rouge cell but that is WAY too much ball to use on a medium lane condition. i just got into storm and roto grip and cant be any happier. i used to throw ebonite and the one pearl was my favorite ball. looking for something similar. thanks!

 

themagician

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Re: 2D, Nomad Pearl, or Hy-Road?
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2009, 11:40:58 AM »
I can't comment on the Nomad Pearl but the Second Dimension and Hy-Road are very similar in hook and reaction shape when at the same surface with the same layout. I preferred my Hy-Road over the 2D and kept it, sold the 2D due to too much overlap.
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Re: 2D, Nomad Pearl, or Hy-Road?
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2009, 11:50:06 AM »
I think it depends on the person.  I have had a hyroad which I sold and I have a second dimension.  For me the the 2nd dimension worked better for me on a house shout mine had more drive and overall hook then the hyroad.  For me it felt like I had to really hook the ball to get my Hyroad to move like I wanted. Either way they are both great choices.

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Re: 2D, Nomad Pearl, or Hy-Road?
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2009, 11:58:33 AM »
Also to add to I think the nomads look great I have both on order.  Whatever way you go they are all great equipment.

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Re: 2D, Nomad Pearl, or Hy-Road?
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2009, 01:22:10 PM »
For a bench mark ball I can't see anything really beating the Hyroad for most people.  rctc noted that for him it was the opposite and I ran into the same problem with the Virtual (I hated it).

However, looking at how many are being thrown and the success that the Hyroad has had vs the others I would have to say it is the way to go.  The Hyroad is also a ball that responds great to surface changes. S

It would also depend on how you typically match up diff's and rg's.  Take a look at which balls that you typically have had good success with and then check out their diff's and rg's and then compare those to the balls in question.



greenefam

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Re: 2D, Nomad Pearl, or Hy-Road?
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2009, 03:46:57 PM »
I concur that both the Hy-Road and 2nd Dimension at box condition there is overlap.  I have both balls - Hy-Road I keep at 4000 abralon and 2nd I keep at 2000 and with the surface differences they complement each other nicely.  

If I were in your shoes and was looking for a ball down from the Rogue Cell I'd go with the Hy-Road probably at box polish.  Both balls are hybrids while the Rogue is stronger both due to the cover and core.  I think you should be happy with that 1-2 punch.

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Re: 2D, Nomad Pearl, or Hy-Road?
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2009, 02:42:31 AM »
i also have a chance to get a cell pearl. great price. think that would fit in there any better? btw great price i mean free =D

greenefam

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Re: 2D, Nomad Pearl, or Hy-Road?
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2009, 01:35:39 PM »
Cell Pearl will be closer to the Rogue than all the other balls mentioned here.  A 3 ball combo with:

Rogue
Cell Pearl
Hy-Road or Nomad Solid

would be a nice 3 ball set covering heavy to medium - medium light

yo

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Re: 2D, Nomad Pearl, or Hy-Road?
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2009, 02:10:05 PM »
well i was thinking about going this route only because i like the way the new storm and roto stuff react.

rouge cell
virtual gravity
cell pearl
fast or mars
tropical storm

greenefam

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Re: 2D, Nomad Pearl, or Hy-Road?
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2009, 03:47:50 PM »
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well i was thinking about going this route only because i like the way the new storm and roto stuff react.

rouge cell
virtual gravity
cell pearl
fast or mars
tropical storm


Got it.  Quick analysis -

Rouge and Virtual at box finish are REAL close IMO.  Change one of them to 1000 or 2000 abralon in order to get a smoother and earlier ball and you will be fine.  I get the Cell Pearl under these - great ball with more length than Rouge and Virtual.  Fast and Mars are not really that close IMO.  The Fast is MUCH stronger, earlier, and more angular than the Mars.  I am not a fan of the Tropical (you will find others who are).  For me the Tropical is only useful for beginner bowlers.  Now that I get your thinking I would still say you are missing a real benchmark ball for medium.  I'd go with:

Virtual Gravity @ 1000 or 2000
Rouge Cell
Cell Pearl
Nomad or Hy-Road
Mars or Neptune

yo

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Re: 2D, Nomad Pearl, or Hy-Road?
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2009, 03:56:45 PM »
is a cell pearl and a nomad that far apart from eachother? the tropical is ok. i have one already and thought about taking it back out. i can do without it i suppose.

greenefam

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Re: 2D, Nomad Pearl, or Hy-Road?
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2009, 04:57:59 PM »
Cell Pearl and Nomad Solid are very different.  Cell Pearl is sym. and uses the Cyto. pearl cover, Nomad is sym. and has a milder cover (ultra vision is a medium strength reactive).  The end result is a more angular Cell Pearl that is also a bit earlier.

You started off this thread saying you were looking for a 'go to ball' that can be used on a lot of conditions.  Polished or 4000 abralon sym. solids or hybrids fit that mold for me - a benchmark ball.  In the current Storm and Roto lineup that would be either the Hy-Road or Nomad Solid.  For me the Cell Pearl is a great ball but does NOT fit in that slot... it is a bit too strong to call a benchmark ball.

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Re: 2D, Nomad Pearl, or Hy-Road?
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2009, 05:19:19 PM »
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Cell Pearl and Nomad Solid are very different. Cell Pearl is sym. and uses the Cyto. pearl cover, Nomad is sym. and has a milder cover (ultra vision is a medium strength reactive). The end result is a more angular Cell Pearl that is also a bit earlier.


So you are saying the Cell Pearl is earlier and more angular than the Nomad Solid, correct?  Where would the Nomad Pearl fit in?

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Re: 2D, Nomad Pearl, or Hy-Road?
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2009, 05:36:17 PM »
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So you are saying the Cell Pearl is earlier and more angular than the Nomad Solid, correct? Where would the Nomad Pearl fit in?  


Correct with the Cell Pearl - Nomad Solid comparison.  I have yet to drill a Nomad Pearl for anyone but I would assume it would be a bit longer with a similar - maybe slight bit more angular to the solid.  Keep in mind the Nomad solid/pearl covers are basically the same as the Grand Illusion / Illusion.  They are updated balls replacing the cores with the rotary core (specs. are close to the Illusion cores).  

I think Britton did a comparison and the Nomads are just a bit stronger than the Illusions but still a step down from the Cells.  Maybe Britton if you get a chance can you jump in here?

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Re: 2D, Nomad Pearl, or Hy-Road?
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2009, 12:27:23 AM »
so how would a cell pearl compare to a hyroad then? i talked to my proshop guy today and he recommended getting this line up.

rouge
cell pearl
hyroad
natural

sorry for being so indecisive.. i just changed weights and wanna make sure i get a good line up. thank you everyone for your input.