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~*Storm INVASION videos presented by Videoballreviews.com*~
« on: December 07, 2009, 12:54:09 PM »
Hi all,

Its been a little while since i have done some videos but for good reason, i have found a new house to film at. Not only is there better lighting but i also have a multitude of oil patterns to test on.  ALL of my videos will now be featured on a typical house shot and on some type of sport shot.

So you can compare, this house shot may not have alot of length (It's 38') BUT there is quite a bit more volume than the last house i filmed at.

So here is the new release from Storm, THE INVASION

This ball is just downright STRONG...full review coming soon but here are the videos for your viewing pleasure...

http://www.videoballreviews.com/invasion.html

Comparison to the Virtual Gravity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjlSqJe68zM

Layout Comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3JbuvvH0Sk

Surface Change
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeBdR8DqzSE

Enjoy - As always all comments and questions are welcomed.
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Re: ~*Storm INVASION videos presented by Videoballreviews.com*~
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2009, 10:23:02 PM »
How does the invasion compare to the mutant cell?  

The previous stuff by storm seemed to turn the corner a bit harder than the stuff out by roto grip.  The virtual gravity generally was quite a bit more angular than the cell.  Now, it seems as though this relationship may have reversed or at least leveled off.  The mutant cell seems to get pretty angular on the backend, while the invasion looks to have more of a rolly look.  Is this just my impression, or would you say the same?
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Re: ~*Storm INVASION videos presented by Videoballreviews.com*~
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2009, 04:12:30 AM »
BD,

When the cell came out it was a big hooking, big rolling super monster...super controlable and versatile.  Then the Virtual Gravity came out and gave the bowler what he always wanted, a long and strong reaction on heavier oil patterns.  For me the Virtual always hooked about 4-5 more boards than a cell AT THE SAME SURFACE. (Remember the cell came 2000 OOB and the VG is 4000 OOB).  

In my opinon the Invasion and Mutant have the same relationship, just take a step to the left (or right for you leftys).  Look at these balls as the next generation of the Cell and Virtual Gravity.  They have stronger, next generation covers with tweaked stronger cores.  While comparable, i know quite a few people who had both a virtual gravity and a cell, and i see no reason why they couldnt have a Mutant and an Invasion to compliment each other.

In essence, Cell is to Virtual Gravity as Mutant Cell is to Invasion.

Hope that helps.
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Re: ~*Storm INVASION videos presented by Videoballreviews.com*~
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2009, 09:48:55 AM »
Britton,

I missed something with all the discussions going on about the Invasion.  Is this a Premier (Asym.) ball?  For some reason I have been assuming this is the Dimension replacement but in your layouts I see a MB marking.

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Re: ~*Storm INVASION videos presented by Videoballreviews.com*~
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2009, 09:58:03 AM »
quote:
Britton,

I missed something with all the discussions going on about the Invasion.  Is this a Premier (Asym.) ball?  For some reason I have been assuming this is the Dimension replacement but in your layouts I see a MB marking.



Yes it is asymmetrical. This ball will be in the Premire Line along with the Virtual Gravity and Virtual Energy.

The 15# specs are as follows - 2.48 RG, .057 Diff, .017 Intermediate Diff
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Re: ~*Storm INVASION videos presented by Videoballreviews.com*~
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2009, 10:17:50 AM »
Thanks for the thorough reply Britton.

I understand where you're coming from as far as the overall hook argument as the invasion really looks super strong.  It seems like the core stats sort of support my argument on the reaction shape, however.

The seminar where Hank Boomershine talked about the mutant cell core he said that he increased the intermediate (mb) differential (and reduce the differential) in order to get the ball to tip harder than the cell on the backend.  
Cell - 2.52rg    .056diff    .018mbdiff
Mutant Cell - 2.54rg    .047diff     .021mbdiff

If we extend this idea to the virtual gravity vs. invasion, the virtual gravity (.020 mb diff and .052 diff) would seem to have a stronger backend motion than the invasion (.017 mb diff and .057).

Once again, I see the strong vs weak aspect of what you're saying.  The videos are great and its nice to get a visual understanding of these balls before they hit the shelves.  Thanks.
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Re: ~*Storm INVASION videos presented by Videoballreviews.com*~
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2009, 12:00:17 PM »
quote:
Thanks for the thorough reply Britton.

I understand where you''''''''re coming from as far as the overall hook argument as the invasion really looks super strong.  It seems like the core stats sort of support my argument on the reaction shape, however.

The seminar where Hank Boomershine talked about the mutant cell core he said that he increased the intermediate (mb) differential (and reduce the differential) in order to get the ball to tip harder than the cell on the backend.  
Cell - 2.52rg    .056diff    .018mbdiff
Mutant Cell - 2.54rg    .047diff     .021mbdiff

If we extend this idea to the virtual gravity vs. invasion, the virtual gravity (.020 mb diff and .052 diff) would seem to have a stronger backend motion than the invasion (.017 mb diff and .057).

Once again, I see the strong vs weak aspect of what you''''''''re saying.  The videos are great and its nice to get a visual understanding of these balls before they hit the shelves.  Thanks.
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Not a problem, happy to answer.

Yes you are correct my comment was directed more at total overall hook, the numbers support the reaction shape difference you suggested...and yes i believe the virtual will push further and make a stronger move at the back of the pattern than an invasion.  The new R3X Coverstock is something special tho, and the amount of friction it can create is really visable with the invasion...as you can see in my video when i throw the invasion on the same line it wants to dig in real hard in the middle part of the lane and just keep going.  The overall hook potential of the Invasion is greater and it still retains a strong move downlane.  If your virtual gravity is getting a little squirly or just not coming around the corner, the invasion will be the way to go.  So while you are looking at core numbers, you must also look at coverstock composition as a major part of ball reaction.

Now compared to the mutant, the surface prep which is a major factor in ball reaction must also be taken into consideration...just like the Virtual Gravity and Cell, the Invasion and Mutant come oob at different surfaces. (Invasion @ 4000 and Mutant @ 2000...For me (and your results may vary) the invasion at 4000 is similar in hook potential to the mutant at 2000, just completly different reaction shapes...just for kicks i took the invasion to 2000 the other day, and it was much earlier and stronger than the mutant, so with all things being equal, for me the invasion is the stronger ball.

Storm has always done a great job of seperation in their equipment, within its own brand and between Storm and Roto Grip.  Between the two brands in my opinion they have the most complete lineup in the industry.

Either way good topic of discussion, hopefully my explination makes sense.
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Edited on 12/8/2009 1:09 PM

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Re: ~*Storm INVASION videos presented by Videoballreviews.com*~
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2009, 12:35:32 PM »
quote:
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Storm has always done a great job of seperation in their equipment, within its own brand and between Storm and Roto Grip.  
**Between the two brands in my opinion they have the most complete lineup in the industry.**




and that would be why most pba tournys are won with these 2 awsome companys!!!!

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Re: ~*Storm INVASION videos presented by Videoballreviews.com*~
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2009, 01:15:46 PM »
I would chime in here to support Britton in his comments, I would say what I have seen jibes with what he has stated here.

One thing to add and to maybe accentuate is his note about the ball digging in the middle of the lane.  I was getting wiggle with a Mutant while in the puddle and went to the Invasion in the same spot and went high in the first shot because of how hard it was in the midlane.  A 4 and 2 move left and I have Lois (the lane).

Visually speaking, it almost "looks" like the Invasion is creating more traction in oil than anything I've ever seen to the point it almost "looks" like it's facing up while still in the pattern.  Ton's of control and power on the back to kick out the 10's.

I'll also note that I have had 2 each of the Gravity and Energy in the Virtual line and haven't matched up to any of them.  I always matched up better to CELL's.  This one is different though...I'm looking forward to more chances to toss this in the near future.
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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2009, 03:41:29 PM »
Anybody know if this was the black test ball Storm was passing around at their Mutant cell seminar?

The look on the lanes appears similar.

Anybody?
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Re: ~*Storm INVASION videos presented by Videoballreviews.com*~
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2009, 07:03:56 PM »
Any chance you can do a comparison of the Mutant and the Invsion on the Scorpion or Shark?

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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2009, 07:17:49 PM »
Wow, that is grabby as all hell.  I''ve been on more flooded conditions as of late, and I have been looking for something that''s stronger than my VE and VG...
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Re: ~*Storm INVASION videos presented by Videoballreviews.com*~
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2009, 08:07:12 PM »
Doug,

Yes this was the black ball at the matchmaker/open houses.

WP,

I most likely wont be doing a video review comparing the two.  I can tell you i filmed both the invasion and mutant cell videos at the same time.  So if you watch the invasion on the scorpion pattern and the mutant cell on the scorpion pattern it will give you somewhat of an idea of how they compare...remember tho, they have different layouts
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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2009, 08:18:18 PM »
excellent...thanks!

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Re: ~*Storm INVASION videos presented by Videoballreviews.com*~
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2009, 09:22:39 PM »
Does anyone know the release date and where one can find the specs on it?