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tenpinspro

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A question for you guys....
« on: February 20, 2007, 06:25:13 AM »
Just got off the phone with Carl and we decided we would like your opinions on this.  Remember how we asked you to lay out our some of our pieces to see a reaction?  Well now we'd like to see where you guys think what company we should sign with (if available).  Now that the new year has already started, it limits us greatly on our choices because most contracts are budgeted and run calender yr 1/1 - 12/31 (another reason I feel Col owes us staffers something).  

When I joined the Track forum 4 yrs ago, we were 5th in popularity in BR.  With the help of Carl, Anthony Chapman (achappy), George Frilingos, Clint Daley and many others.  We've boosted Track to 2nd, I think that says a lot for the work we've done here in customer support and satisfaction.  I feel we could do the same in any respective forum if given the chance.

1.Brunswick
2.Ebonite/Hammer/Col/Track/Dynothane
3.Lanemasters
4.MoRich
5.Storm/Roto
6.Visionary
7.Other...

Thanks for your time....

On edit: I told Carl that this would be the 1st time we don't have to wear a Track shirt and I have a few Storm/Roto balls I stashed that I liked the reaction of to use in league tonite.  Just a weird feeling, that's all...
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Re: A question for you guys....
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2007, 02:32:14 PM »
Sign with whoever treats you well.  That's my take.
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Re: A question for you guys....
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2007, 02:34:34 PM »
Rick, I don't know if you have thrown other companies equipment, but I always felt, putting money aside, that a person should go with the product they feel is the best. I myself like Ebonite and Hammer.
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Re: A question for you guys....
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2007, 02:34:51 PM »
I'll vote for Roto.  Their equipment looks really good.  Like Andy said, make sure whomever you sign with treats you guys well.  It is well deserved.
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Re: A question for you guys....
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2007, 02:35:33 PM »
I'd vote for either Hammer or Lanemasters/Legends.  I think Hammer has really been on the ball as of late, with big releases like the Black Widow and a strong mid-priced line in the Raw Hammer series.  LM/L is a company that could maybe use strong support from guys like you.  They have an interesting line up and have shown themselves to be a "different" ball company that focuses on quality first and foremost.
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Re: A question for you guys....
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2007, 02:41:01 PM »
Rick,

I'd say check out Storm, and then Brunswick/Morich. I think these by far are the most popular and versatile companies at the moment. I ordered a couple Storm balls friday that should be here tomorrow!!


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Re: A question for you guys....
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2007, 02:41:04 PM »
The stuff i like other than Track might be Lanemasters, MoRich, or Brunswick .. they're all good. I would stay faaaaar away from Ebonite. I don't trust their coverstocks, never did, never will. Sorry to the people who do like them, this is only IMHO.

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Re: A question for you guys....
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2007, 02:46:57 PM »
Honestly, I would say that you two should choose which company intrigues you the most. All of the companies have excellent equipment, but I know for me some balls and companies (Visionary, Ebonite, MoRich) really intrigues me the most over some of the other brands (Brunswick, Storm).

With that being said, if I had the opportunity (really the money, since you just pay to get on the test staff), I would buy a membership to Visionary's test staff. They do not produce balls like the bigger companies have, but the fact they fly under the radar with some great equipment is the best part about them.

Many that have thrown Visionary can testify that they are not exactly out there creating the biggest hooking monsters that they can. The Gargoyle series was not a huge hooking series, but they were mostly control balls that could get you out of a bind on the tougher patterns.

I know it's not exactly the most desirable company, especially with the big three pumping out innovation after innovation. But to me, Visionary has that kind of "charm" that I look for. It's like choosing the girl next door over the supermodel. The supermodel may be the best looking, but the girl next door just has that something you're looking for.
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Re: A question for you guys....
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2007, 02:47:39 PM »
There was a company that even had balls named after Carl and myself.....

FAT MAN and LITTLE BOY...  At least I thought they were named after us.

Thank you guys for your vote, keep'em coming.

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Visionary has that kind of "charm" that I look for. It's like choosing the girl next door over the supermodel. The supermodel may be the best looking, but the girl next door just has that something you're looking for.



Nicely stated Ryan...I like that.
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Re: A question for you guys....
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2007, 02:49:22 PM »
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There was a company that even had balls named after Carl and myself.....

FAT MAN and LITTLE BOY...  At least I thought they were named after us.

Thank you guys for your vote, keep'em coming.
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Pshh, screw my last post. Here's what you do...

1. Buy a lottery ticket.
2. Win the lottery.
3. Buy a manufacturing plant.
4. Make your OWN equipment!!!

Now it may take a bit of time to win the lottery...but in the end it may just be worth it!
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Re: A question for you guys....
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2007, 03:10:59 PM »
First I want to say that it is because of Rick, Carl, Clint and George's postings that even got me to look at a Track ball. So there is a pretty good chance that I will look for my next one where you guys land.

I would love you guys to go to Visionary. They seem to make quality equipment. They are still a "small" company that is family oriented (unlike other companies). And I think that they would really boom with the knowledge that you would bring to the table. Also they don't produce balls just to produce balls, they see a gap in their line up and that is what they fix.

And in their forum it is hard to get a lot of good feedback now.

After them I would say Morich.

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I am thinking of getting back into the Test Staff with Visionary.
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Re: A question for you guys....
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2007, 03:23:05 PM »
My first suggestion would be Roto Grip or Storm. After that, Visionary, Brunswick, Lane#1, Banger, etc. My reason for saying Roto Grip first is that they make such wonderful equipment and with your talent, you could really give them a boast in popularity. Their equipment deserves it. But most of all...whoever will give you a paycheck!

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Re: A question for you guys....
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2007, 03:47:30 PM »
Rick & Carl,

Rick, you already know my choice, but for discussion sake, I'm hoping you both go to Roto.  I haven't been using them long, but I already have 4 of their balls in only a short amount of time since using my first Roto ball (which was the Battle).  They make quality equipment and I know you said you matched up well with them in the past.  Storm would be my 2nd choice for you guys.
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Re: A question for you guys....
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2007, 03:51:05 PM »
Given the past year and the inherent instability of the financial life of a pro shop, I suggest you guys sign with the most financially and politically stable company. I almost hate to say it (solely because it's been so long since I've used any of their balls) but it looks like that company is the Ebonite corporate structure  ....

Right now, personally, I use Visionary for light to medium oil and Lanemasters for medium to heavy oil, with one Roto-Grip ball thrown in for good measure. However, I have a couple of Track and Brunswick balls I will never get rid of.
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Re: A question for you guys....
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2007, 03:53:16 PM »
Morich first because he might pick you up right away and you are both experts in assymetric balls already and believe in the concept. Otherwise Legends because honestly they are just better overall balls than the Track stuff, i fall off the Track wagon awhile ago. Inertia was the last really good ball made by Del and his only one in stint two, and the new Phoenix is good ball but nothing special either.

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