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thegame

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Big Blue......how much ball are we talking here
« on: November 25, 2003, 02:10:59 AM »
I had the opportunity to throw the Big Blue at a Hammer Demo Days, and I saw it as a relatively medium hooking ball, with a very mild, controllable backend.  I think this is going to be a fantastic ball in the Hammer line, but there are some things that kind of make me wonder....  Hammer seems to be touting this as a big hooking ball, by the hook chart at the back of their leaflet that was sent out with BTM's November issue, and it also recieved a very high hook rating in that issue of BTM.  However, Hammer has not (yet at least) put a hook rating or SF/ER rating for the Big Blue on it's website, although it's hook is listed at 42.2 (more than the Vicious Strike) at the back of that same leaflet, and the differential listed for it is very low      

This is just my impression from what I saw at the Hammer test, the differential is probably correct, the hook motion on the hook chart at the back of the leaflet seems to be misleading as it shows it going long, and having a huge backend, I found just the opposite to be true, I think the hook path of the Power Diesel or Sharp Blade on that chart would be more accurate.
Again, don't get me wrong, this is going to be a great ball for Hammer, with a truly unique weight block inside of it, and you are going to see more Hammer PBA bowlers than you can count using it on those conditions, but I think some of the literature that has come out on it may be misleading.  Just curious as to what some other impressions of this ball are.

 

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Re: Big Blue......how much ball are we talking here
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2003, 11:49:11 AM »
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What price range is the Big Blue going to be in?  From what I'm seeing, it looks like it's going to priced about the same as the Vicious line?  Also, did anybody try it with a smoother (say 2000 grit) surface on it?  I'm wondering what it's move looks like when it's shined up.  I wasn't at that tournament, so maybe it wasn't practical or useful to use a shined Big Blue.  Just wondering.

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thegame

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Re: Big Blue......how much ball are we talking here
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2003, 12:02:24 PM »
So, Ronald, am I to take it, there was not a problem found with the Big Blue, it is just not being released for a couple of weeks yet, and the Big Blue I threw at the Demo Days was the same ball (dynamically speaking), that was being thrown at the Hoinke, and Lizzi used on the show?  Thanks again for taking the time with the help.

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Re: Big Blue......how much ball are we talking here
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2003, 12:15:38 PM »
Shiv:  I am left handed, and speaking from a left handed point of view, there was no reason to shine Big Blue this weekend.  The volume was simply too heavy and the play did not burn any part of the lane that would have required a shine.  I did ask Ron, and he said you'd get the ball reaction you would expect if you shined any ball, more push down the lane and sharper break-point.  Nothing secret about it, and it can handle it.  Hope this helps.