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htotheizzo3561

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Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« on: August 22, 2005, 02:32:15 PM »
ON bowl.com
 
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Billy Ray

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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #46 on: August 23, 2005, 08:55:01 AM »
I have sent an email to Chuck Husted at Lane #1 to try and get to the bottom of this and whether or not its a mistake or not. As we have been selling the SCB Polished to a few customers I don't want to have any issues with them in their leagues or tournaments.


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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #47 on: August 23, 2005, 08:58:21 AM »
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There are 2 possibilities:

1) Mr. Buzzsaw was trying to "stick it to" the USBC with using that core again, so they decided to say "we can play hardball" & they put the SCB on the non-approved list.


Let me rephrase that...I think "stick it" was the wrong term. I thin Ritchie had planned to release a particle pearl with the SCB core. When the core becamse illegal, the only way he could use it was to somehow use a ball already released. Hence the SCB. I am not speaking for them, this is just what I think.
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #48 on: August 23, 2005, 09:00:39 AM »
interesting-

 http://lane1bowling.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=632&forum=Have_a_question

To bad that one was never answered, could have shed some light on this.
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #49 on: August 23, 2005, 09:36:21 AM »
Got a call from Sawmill just a few minutes ago. He was on his way to work, but let me know he spoke to Chuck at lane1. I guess he & Mr. Buzzsaw were attending a meeting to find out what's up. We could probably expect to here something from them soon. I'm sure they will post something here as soon as they can. Hope it will be better news.
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #50 on: August 23, 2005, 09:45:47 AM »
Yeah I just called Lane#1 myself and the lady said they were in a meeting about this.  She said it might be sometime this afternoon before anything is ever released but it could be quicker.  This is all just messed up if you ask me.  USBC needs to get a grip before the manufacturers themselves form their own Bowling Congress.
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Chazman819

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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #51 on: August 23, 2005, 09:47:21 AM »
From the reaction of Lane 1, it sounds like this caught them off guard. For that reason, I don't think it was a "deal" or anything like that.
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #52 on: August 23, 2005, 09:52:11 AM »
Let's all keep out fingers crossed this don't spread... Oh man... I'll keep an eye open for a response. Dang not that I need more expenses right now. I almost bought one but it's too much hook for me.
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #53 on: August 23, 2005, 10:01:52 AM »
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This is just a guess but it might be that the Polished Super Carbide Bomb is not approved while the Super Carbide Bomb is due to it's approval date. Lane #1 might have assumed the polished version of the ball would automatically be approved because the dull version was. USBC's view might be that because the Polished Super Carbide Bomb is being marketed as a new release and the coverstock is prepared differently at the factory the ball would need to meet the current specifications which it clearly does not due to the Rg differential. It'll be very interesting to see how this develops.......


possible...but on the site, it doesn't say Polished Super Carbide Bomb, just says Super Carbide Bomb. If it is the polished one, that makes a little more sense, but not much.
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2005, 10:02:39 AM »
Precision, I believe you hit the nail on the head.
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2005, 10:12:07 AM »
The super carbide bomb in its entirety is not on the USBC list of approved balls any longer. Polished or unpolished.
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2005, 10:19:59 AM »
I find it hard to believe its a mistake on Lane#1 part.  Yes it clearly says rerelease and I agree looks bad for us.  But think about it lane#1 is in it to make money they aren't going to rerelease a ball and do another pour of it which I am sure was a minimum of several 100 balls at least and be stuck with them and not sell them because they are no longer approved.  Bottom line is something is fishy here and I have no doubt Lane#1 wil fix it for us.
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2005, 10:23:05 AM »
Just my opinion, I don't see how USBC could consider it a new ball or new release when its the same ball, one dull & one polished.
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2005, 10:29:07 AM »
it's interesting how this quickly turned from the SCB to the polished. Still, none of us no for sure if the bowl.com site meant to say polished.

That being said, if it is indeed the polished that is banned, then Lane 1 seemed to have ventured into an area the USBC didn't expect. This ball is clearly not a re-release. It's not a different cover. All they are doing is polishing some of them after insted of leaving them dull. USBC didn't expect this I think.

Most solid/pearl ball 1-2 punches use different covers. Pulse/Pearl Pulse, Cherry Bomb/Black Cherry Bomb, blue Pirahna C/Jade Piranha C...those are examples of two different balls using the same core. This is not a different ball.
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Chazman819

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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2005, 10:36:26 AM »
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If in fact it is the Polished SCB which the USBC meant to ban and they refuse to back off, Lane 1 might have a way around their decision.  All they have to do is pull the Polished SCB from their website and then provide the option for anyone wishing to purchase a SCB in the future can request it dull or polished.  What would be the difference if you have the ball polished at the factory or your proshop?
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that's all the polished SCB is now anyways. It's basically an option. You want a black or blue Ford Explorer? Same thing.

Difference I think though is Brunswick/Lane 1 can get a better polish on it. I am not sure though.
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #60 on: August 23, 2005, 10:52:21 AM »
They responded to my E-mail that I sent last night.

"There will be an official press release regarding this ball soon.  Thank you.

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