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Burnt up Lanes
« on: August 22, 2017, 06:41:37 PM »
I'm looking for a nice unaggressive piece for the burn.  Is Urethane a good choice for the 3rd game or late tournament block?  Would it start too early?  If so, what would be a good choice for the 3rd league game when everything is running?  I guess I need a true dry lane ball as opposed to a skid/flip ball.  Thinking about the Cherry Vibe, BTU Pearl, or Hustle SAY.  Any other suggestions?  I'm not looking for any super long and super angular on the back.  That normally gets me in the ugly split territory in the 3rd game.  Rant over.  Any suggestions would be appreciated. 

 

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Re: Burnt up Lanes
« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2017, 09:24:46 PM »
Urethane seems to do ok on some of those ultra hard USBC Open patterns.  Granted I think a lot of the people I heard did well with urethane also had some serious hand.
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Re: Burnt up Lanes
« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2017, 08:06:21 AM »
Urethane seems to do ok on some of those ultra hard USBC Open patterns.  Granted I think a lot of the people I heard did well with urethane also had some serious hand.

Yes and no.  In my sport shot league this past week, we bowled on the 2012 Open Championships pattern and a kid going straight up 7 shot 300 in game 1.  His look went away in game 2 and he shot 160.  He balled up, moved in to 4th arrow, and was back at 200.  Urethane can work for some...but like avabob said, it can box you in if you stay with it.  You have to know its limitations and when to put it away.

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Re: Burnt up Lanes
« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2017, 08:29:59 AM »
That has been my experience as well.  I've used urethane and scored very well when others were struggling to control their reactive pieces.  However, I've never used it for 3 games on those same conditions.  That's why I posted the question.  I needed help.  Thankfully, I don't see it a lot but I see it in the same tournament that I participate in 2-3 times per year.  I didn't know if the answer was another solid urethane, a pearl urethane or just a really weak reactive. 

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Re: Burnt up Lanes
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2017, 09:25:55 AM »
For most people, urethane isn't a 3 game option. Myself, I can see using it game 2 when transition murders me, but then I need to ball up and move in.

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Re: Burnt up Lanes
« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2017, 09:47:36 AM »
They just need to fix the oil absorption issue so that oil doesn't sit on top of the cover and smear when you wipe it. Idk, if that's chemically possible. But it definitely can be a great option in the bag.
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Re: Burnt up Lanes
« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2017, 11:01:08 AM »
Lot to be said for a super weak reactive like the new Blue Hammer compared to some of the stronger urethane that will actually grab too hard too early sometimes.  Hear good things about the Rhino as well. I will readily admit urethane is very much condition specific for a good majority of bowlers.
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Re: Burnt up Lanes
« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2017, 11:08:22 AM »
They just need to fix the oil absorption issue so that oil doesn't sit on top of the cover and smear when you wipe it. Idk, if that's chemically possible. But it definitely can be a great option in the bag.

Oil sits on top of urethane and always has.  It's kind of its thing.  I find my Genesis shammy keeps em pretty clean if make sure and wipe often.  There is always the option of busting out your any time cleaner between games too. 
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Re: Burnt up Lanes
« Reply #38 on: August 29, 2017, 11:22:25 AM »
They just need to fix the oil absorption issue so that oil doesn't sit on top of the cover and smear when you wipe it. Idk, if that's chemically possible.

Yes it's possible in fact they already did it, It's called reactive resin.

Which is urethane that has additives that allow the cover to absorb the oil off the the surface of the ball.
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Re: Burnt up Lanes
« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2017, 12:27:19 PM »
For me, I've made it simple. One layout one three balls for whatever "burn" I see. Not all burnt up lanes are equal. What ever I see on the lanes, ball motion, and pins will tell me, or I make a guess, to which of the three balls to use.

I have these: Blue hammer, tropical breeze, and Lane #1 XXXL.
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Re: Burnt up Lanes
« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2017, 02:02:58 PM »
They just need to fix the oil absorption issue so that oil doesn't sit on top of the cover and smear when you wipe it. Idk, if that's chemically possible. But it definitely can be a great option in the bag.

Oil sits on top of urethane and always has.  It's kind of its thing.  I find my Genesis shammy keeps em pretty clean if make sure and wipe often.  There is always the option of busting out your any time cleaner between games too.

Ive done that in the past and still had the same issue. Not quite as bad but the cover is still slick. If I could figure out Jesper's secret, outside of just ridiculous amounts of hand lol.....
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Re: Burnt up Lanes
« Reply #41 on: August 29, 2017, 02:05:50 PM »
They just need to fix the oil absorption issue so that oil doesn't sit on top of the cover and smear when you wipe it. Idk, if that's chemically possible.

Yes it's possible in fact they already did it, It's called reactive resin.

Which is urethane that has additives that allow the cover to absorb the oil off the the surface of the ball.

I meant in the sense of keeping the same hardness but opening the pores instead of additives
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Re: Burnt up Lanes
« Reply #42 on: August 29, 2017, 02:40:40 PM »
For me, I've made it simple. One layout one three balls for whatever "burn" I see. Not all burnt up lanes are equal. What ever I see on the lanes, ball motion, and pins will tell me, or I make a guess, to which of the three balls to use.

I have these: Blue hammer, tropical breeze, and Lane #1 XXXL.

Lane #1 also had The Bullet which looked like a great bone dry ball.  Saw that on ebay awhile back.  About as mild as resin gets.
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Re: Burnt up Lanes
« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2017, 02:00:37 PM »
The Lane 1 Dart would be a good choice. I found one used and for me it a great dry lane ball.

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Re: Burnt up Lanes
« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2017, 04:23:10 PM »
What about those plastic / polyester balls with the huge cores.

I think Hammer had one with the gas mask core. I remember one guy at Westminster lanes rolling on dry and scoring 700+ with it.

I think it was a freebie with purchase a couple of years ago.

A big diamond core is in the Lane #1 XXXL recommended earlier.  Yeah Hammer has one and so do most the manufacturers I believe (Widow spare the new version, old one was the Taboo spare and now that ball is pricey 2nd hand).  I only have a 14lb viz-a-ball with a pancake core which is pretty useless as a first ball in almost all circumstances so have retired that to the garage.  Have way too much urethane in arsenal to be carrying a plastic spare ball around but I can see how plastic can be useful for sure.
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Re: Burnt up Lanes
« Reply #45 on: August 30, 2017, 06:06:20 PM »
They just need to fix the oil absorption issue so that oil doesn't sit on top of the cover and smear when you wipe it. Idk, if that's chemically possible.

Yes it's possible in fact they already did it, It's called reactive resin.

Which is urethane that has additives that allow the cover to absorb the oil off the the surface of the ball.

I meant in the sense of keeping the same hardness but opening the pores instead of additives

The additives are part of the process use to create the pores that allow the oil to be absorbed.
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