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JOE FALCO

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Cost Increase NOT effecting bowlers?
« on: January 02, 2008, 07:45:00 AM »
I buy all of my bowling balls on-line. Recently there have been some posting on here that talked about EBONITE PRICE INCREASE .. seems from the discussion that the increase was to the DISTRIBUTORS and WILL NOT effect the bowlers. Well I just checked with one of the online site for prices .. let me tell you what I found:

Columbia Momentum .. $155.95
 col Resurgence  $155.95

Hammer No Mercy Beat'n  $161.95
 Ham .. No Mercy   $161.95

Ebonite Total NV  $159.95

When you add drilling costs it seems like Local Pro Shop prices to me. I'm so glad this change didn't effect the bowler .. perhaps it didn't effect the bowler who BUYS from Local Pro Shops ..
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Re: Cost Increase NOT effecting bowlers?
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2008, 03:52:32 PM »
Joe I buy all of my balls from pro shop and have never paid that much for a ball as the prices that you listed not counting drilling of course
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Re: Cost Increase NOT effecting bowlers?
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2008, 03:59:57 PM »
Online Distributors, and also add in the increased shipping costs from all the shippers. (FED-EX,UPS,DHL,etc.) For the masses here on-line especially on sites like this does it mean you try one less ball a year. Most are equipment whores anyway. I'm not knocking you Joe, but I'm not seeing the problem as a whole. Just makes me do more homework on the equipment before buying.
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Re: Cost Increase NOT effecting bowlers?
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2008, 04:07:47 PM »
Joe, The increase is not for the Distributor (as far as I know there isn't really an increase).

This thing with Ebonite is they are telling the  Distributors that they cant sell balls for a  lower price, EVEN if some one orders 10,000 balls from Ebonite they (Distributors) cant sell for a lower price then the Pro Shops have to pay.

 This  may/will bring in more money for the Distributors, because they now cant, or dont have to dicount balls to the Online shops when they order 1,00 balls from their Distributor.

'Example'  Distributor  orders 10,000 NVS' s  costs them  49.00 each

          Online seller wants "1,000" from Distributor  gets them for 79.00

          Pro Shop orders "4" from same Distributor  is also charged  79.00

          The Distributor no longer has to discount large orders and will make more money. The the Distributors are STILL getting discounts when they order large numbers from Ebonite !!

  Yes the price for the Online sellers will be higher for the balls they sell, and will probably see higher prices in some of the Local Shops as well.


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I buy all of my bowling balls on-line. Recently there have been some posting on here that talked about EBONITE PRICE INCREASE .. seems from the discussion that the increase was to the DISTRIBUTORS and WILL NOT effect the bowlers. Well I just checked with one of the online site for prices .. let me tell you what I found:

Columbia Momentum .. $155.95
 col Resurgence  $155.95

Hammer No Mercy Beat'n  $161.95
 Ham .. No Mercy   $161.95

Ebonite Total NV  $159.95

When you add drilling costs it seems like Local Pro Shop prices to me. I'm so glad this change didn't effect the bowler .. perhaps it didn't effect the bowler who BUYS from Local Pro Shops ..
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Re: Cost Increase NOT effecting bowlers?
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2008, 05:28:29 PM »
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When you add drilling costs it seems like Local Pro Shop prices to me. I'm so glad this change didn't effect the bowler .. perhaps it didn't effect the bowler who BUYS from Local Pro Shops ..
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That is PRECISELY the point.

To make it so that the price you get online is NOT cheaper than what the local pro shop can/will sell it to you. Most times, with ANY internet seller, I could buy a ball delivered to my house, for what my small local pro shop paid for his balls.

The purpose is to discourage you from buying from internet dealers who usually buy in volume and can sell it cheaper than you local pro shop, who's lucky to buy 25 balls at one time from his distributor.

This used to be called price fixing; it used to be illegal.
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Re: Cost Increase NOT effecting bowlers?
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2008, 09:08:36 PM »
This will affect the bottom line of Ebonite, my guess would be they'll sell significantly less equipment.

This experiment will not last long, it'll quietly disappear with no announcement.


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Re: Cost Increase NOT effecting bowlers?
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2008, 09:22:17 AM »
Joe, you say that like it's a bad thing. You buy 30 balls per year. I buy 2000. My distributor buy tens of thousnads. In what order do you think Ebonite cares about those purchase quantities? Hmm?
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JOE FALCO

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Re: Cost Increase NOT effecting bowlers?
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2008, 09:41:21 AM »
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Joe, you say that like it's a bad thing. You buy 30 balls per year. I buy 2000. My distributor buy tens of thousnads. In what order do you think Ebonite cares about those purchase quantities? Hmm?


If the DISTRIBUTOR buys tens of thousands and you buy 2000 and I buy 30 it's quite obvious that Ebonite cares about the one that deals directly with them.

If the bowler doesn't buy EBONITE then you won't buy 2000 and the DISTRIBUTOR won't buy tens of thousands and Ebonite will see that they ARE BEING EFFECTED (or is it AFFECTED)! Maybe EBONITE is worried about the bowler's buying habits!

BOWLERS DON'T BUY EBONITE IN 2008
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Re: Cost Increase NOT effecting bowlers?
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2008, 10:00:47 AM »
Joe I consider you a good friend of mine and I can't belive your taking this point.  My full time and only job is managing a proshop and last year (2007) was way down from 2006, my month of december was down $9000 by itself.  It was only going to get worse.  I have stayed out of this discussion and I will continue to stay out but they are doing what is right to help bowling and to help local shops.  I get the best price possible from my distributors and I can deal with more than one distributor and many times as its been said a ball could be purchased online cheaper than i can purchase it myself.  There is something wrong with that picture.  I am all for saving money but i am also for helping out my local business's.  Ebonite belives in proshops and thats how it should be.
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Re: Cost Increase NOT effecting bowlers?
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2008, 10:01:03 AM »
HONESTLY WHO CARES WHAT EBONITE IS DOING WITH THIER PRICES, DONT LIKE IT DONT BUY IT.. YOU DONT THINK THAT OTHER COMPANIES WILL FOLLOW THIS AT SOME POINT MAYBE NOT EXACTLY BUT IT WILL HAPPEN
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Re: Cost Increase NOT effecting bowlers?
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2008, 10:04:09 AM »
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Joe, you say that like it's a bad thing. You buy 30 balls per year. I buy 2000. My distributor buy tens of thousnads. In what order do you think Ebonite cares about those purchase quantities? Hmm?


If the DISTRIBUTOR buys tens of thousands and you buy 2000 and I buy 30 it's quite obvious that Ebonite cares about the one that deals directly with them.

If the bowler doesn't buy EBONITE then you won't buy 2000 and the DISTRIBUTOR won't buy tens of thousands and Ebonite will see that they ARE BEING EFFECTED (or is it AFFECTED)! Maybe EBONITE is worried about the bowler's buying habits!

BOWLERS DON'T BUY EBONITE IN 2008
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Re: Cost Increase NOT effecting bowlers?
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2008, 10:21:41 AM »
The vast majority of bowlerss buy thru proshops. There prices will remain the same for ebonite products so they see no effect.

Only the ball addicts who continually buy online will be infected and since so many take the selfish point of view... why do I care if they do?

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Re: Cost Increase NOT effecting bowlers?
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2008, 10:24:57 AM »
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Only the ball addicts who continually buy online will be infected and since so many take the selfish point of view... why do I care if they do?  


That sounds nasty. I hope a quick trip to the doctor will do the trick.
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JOE FALCO

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Re: Cost Increase NOT effecting bowlers?
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2008, 10:27:12 AM »
opps! Are we saying that not buying EBONITE is going to put local Pro Shops out of business? I didn't know that they were that strong.  No wonder they do what they do ..

from what I'm reading .. Ebonite can go the way of LANE 1 and we (the bowler) would have to anti up or we will put Pro Shops out of business.

I'm not against anyone making a living BUT I am against anyone putting a GUN TO MY HEAD .. everyone has a choice and I'd rather fight then lay down and let them stomp on me.  
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Re: Cost Increase NOT effecting bowlers?
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2008, 10:33:17 AM »
Steven .. you are commenting here .. I'm advised that you are doing it .. you are the only one on my IGNORE LIST .. so I don't see your comments .. you are welcome to email me .. I'll play WORD GAMES with you privately!
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