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thedjs

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Length of oil
« on: October 06, 2009, 03:25:27 AM »

What would be the normal length of the oil for a typical "house shot"?  At out house it's 42 feet which the manager says is typical.  To me it seems a little long.

Thanks for the help.
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Re: Length of oil
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2009, 11:33:51 AM »
It's my experience that 38' is the typical legnth on a THS. I've seen 36' and I've seen 40', though I've rarely seen 42' for a THS.
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Re: Length of oil
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2009, 11:56:49 AM »
2 of the 3 house's in my area use 42'.... ive bowled on a 35' shot that had less backend than the 42 footer..
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Re: Length of oil
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2009, 12:14:56 PM »
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It's my experience that 38' is the typical legnth on a THS. I've seen 36' and I've seen 40', though I've rarely seen 42' for a THS.
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Couldn't be further from the truth.  38' is short on current generation synthetic lanes and oil machines.  40' to 42' are the norm today.  Many variables dictate patterns length:  mostly type of lane surface and type and volume of oil used.  Also, cleaning practice comes into play.  If they don't strip each time, they will oil shorter because of carrydown.

Pattern length on current generation lanes surfaces/conditions also dictates where your breakpoint should be.  40'- 42' means you'll be around 10 board at 40' on fresh oil.  45' would put you around 13-14.  38' around 7-8 and 35' around 5 board.
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Re: Length of oil
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2009, 12:42:08 PM »
Ours from what the guy who owns it said we use 45 feet. And their are nights were it is slick as snot
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Re: Length of oil
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2009, 01:41:17 PM »
My house was at 44' to start the season.  Now we are at 40.
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Re: Length of oil
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2009, 01:46:33 PM »
here''s what everyone seems to be missing.  The pattern is laid out about 34-38ft then buffed another 6-8 for typical house shots.  That''s where the blend comes in.  Helps to slow the ball down at the end of the pattern so that it doesn''t do anything crazy.  The more blend the easier the lanes play.  
There''s even a house around here that oils to 32 and blends to 40 or 42.  So to answer the original question 42'' is usually the typical length but its not the same type of 42'' you would think of with say the PBA patterns.

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kmanestor22

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Re: Length of oil
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2009, 01:50:39 PM »
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here's what everyone seems to be missing.  The pattern is laid out about 35-38ft then buffed another 6-8 for typical house shots.  That's where the blend comes in.  Helps the slow the ball down at the end of the pattern so that it doesn't do anything crazy.  The more blend the easier the lanes play.  
There's even a house around here that oils to 32 and blends to 40 or 42.  So to answer the original question 42' is usually the typical length but its not the same type of 42' you think of with say the PBA patterns.


No.  You're mistaken.  The PBA patterns are buffed out too.  The end of the oil pattern is where the buffer brush picks up off the lane.  Everyone I've read seems consistent with this definition.
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Dan Belcher

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Re: Length of oil
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2009, 01:56:59 PM »
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here's what everyone seems to be missing.  The pattern is laid out about 35-38ft then buffed another 6-8 for typical house shots.  That's where the blend comes in.  Helps the slow the ball down at the end of the pattern so that it doesn't do anything crazy.  The more blend the easier the lanes play.  
There's even a house around here that oils to 32 and blends to 40 or 42.  So to answer the original question 42' is usually the typical length but its not the same type of 42' you think of with say the PBA patterns.


No.  You're mistaken.  The PBA patterns are buffed out too.  The end of the oil pattern is where the buffer brush picks up off the lane.  Everyone I've read seems consistent with this definition.
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This is true, but also the PBA patterns have less buff, and less taper from front to back in general, which is why the backends fly on fresh oil, but then the heads break down quickly and everyone starts migrating left in a hurry.
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Re: Length of oil
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2009, 01:57:19 PM »
Sorry K but I don't believe I am mistaken.  PBA patterns are slightly buffed yes, maybe a foot or 2, but nothing like a house shot.  Hence why you see a lot of the pros a lot more up the back of the ball than you're typical house bowlers, so they can control the reaction at the end of the pattern.
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Re: Length of oil
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2009, 02:07:18 PM »
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here's what everyone seems to be missing.  The pattern is laid out about 35-38ft then buffed another 6-8 for typical house shots.  That's where the blend comes in.  Helps the slow the ball down at the end of the pattern so that it doesn't do anything crazy.  The more blend the easier the lanes play.  
There's even a house around here that oils to 32 and blends to 40 or 42.  So to answer the original question 42' is usually the typical length but its not the same type of 42' you think of with say the PBA patterns.


No.  You're mistaken.  The PBA patterns are buffed out too.  The end of the oil pattern is where the buffer brush picks up off the lane.  Everyone I've read seems consistent with this definition.
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Have you looked at the patterns recently obviously not.  The PBA Patterns are not buffed any where near the same as house shots.
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Re: Length of oil
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2009, 02:09:55 PM »
You mean to tell me there is saposed to be oil on the lanes.... says who... Its a rumor, all a big lie! those damn plastic pins never want to fall when I miss them!
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Dan Belcher

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Re: Length of oil
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2009, 02:10:33 PM »
At the house where I bowl both PBA Experience and regular house shot leagues, the house shot is technically 42 foot, but the buff starts early enough that the outsides hook a ton close to the gutter, with an early but gentle hooking motion, but there's less buff in the middle, which allows for more length and sharper backend motion.  By comparison, bowling on the fresh PBA patterns, the ball looks like it gets kicked left when it gets downlane until the transition starts to get the ball reading the lane earlier and smoother.  Technically the same length of oil, but the amount of buffing makes a huge difference in downlane motion.
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Re: Length of oil
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2009, 02:13:58 PM »
My house is 32' and buffed out to 39' which is laid down by a Kegel Ion machine.
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Re: Length of oil
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2009, 02:23:37 PM »
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At the house where I bowl both PBA Experience and regular house shot leagues, the house shot is technically 42 foot, but the buff starts early enough that the outsides hook a ton close to the gutter, with an early but gentle hooking motion, but there''s less buff in the middle, which allows for more length and sharper backend motion.  By comparison, bowling on the fresh PBA patterns, the ball looks like it gets kicked left when it gets downlane until the transition starts to get the ball reading the lane earlier and smoother.  Technically the same length of oil, but the amount of buffing makes a huge difference in downlane motion.


There is one buffer that dresses the entire lane.  You cannot buff less in the middle than the outside.  You are officially booted from this discussion.
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