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BobOhio

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Surface Changes and USBC
« on: September 06, 2015, 09:39:51 AM »
As stated by many experts, ball surface has the most effect on ball motion.
Which after much research, this seems to be the case. Then why does the USBC not allow surface changes during competition? Pads are available to everyone and the time to change the surface is about as long as changing a piece of tape.
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Re: Surface Changes and USBC
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2015, 11:15:31 AM »
Probably has something to do with dust from dry sanding with rough grits and the myriad of liquid abrasives that would get all over the place being used by hand on the fly. People struggle enough (for some reason, it's not tough to use responsibly) handling powders/rosins so adding possible dust/liquid abrasives/polishes/compounds would likely lead to settee areas being issues. 

So my guess would be to legislate some of the slobs.
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Re: Surface Changes and USBC
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2015, 11:34:20 AM »
They make numerous adjustable golf clubs but you can't change after the round has started
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Re: Surface Changes and USBC
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2015, 01:16:52 PM »
Not sure I buy that golf reasoning, NASCAR allows a ton of changes to equipment after the completion starts, again it's all about ball motion. If I know how to change that, why can't I?
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Re: Surface Changes and USBC
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2015, 01:29:33 PM »
No matter how this is answered there will always be a rebuttal
Instead of BallReviews why not either contact USBC and ask or try and change/alter the rule
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Re: Surface Changes and USBC
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2015, 02:22:39 PM »
Rico, first I appreciate all you're comments on this site and I'am working with my local USBC to find the correct people at HQ. Just put this out there to see if anyone else feels the same as myself.
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Re: Surface Changes and USBC
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2015, 03:18:54 PM »
While you can't add more friction to the ball, aren't the Lustre Kings legal to use to add polish to a ball during competition?

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Re: Surface Changes and USBC
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2015, 03:24:39 PM »
Quote from: MI 2 AZ on September 06, 2015, 03:18:54 PM
While you can't add more friction to the ball, aren't the Lustre Kings legal to use to add polish to a ball during competition?



Not anymore, they changed the rule a while back. You must have forgot
http://www.ballreviews.com/miscellaneous/ball-polisher-no-longer-legal-during-competition-t303838.0.html
« Last Edit: September 06, 2015, 03:29:45 PM by Aloarjr810 »
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Re: Surface Changes and USBC
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2015, 04:58:38 PM »
you can bring up that in international competition you can change it between games, not during the game, I believer Team USA trials is also the same way.
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Re: Surface Changes and USBC
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2015, 09:20:17 PM »
U can still add polish to a ball during league. I do it all the time Lane 1 Secret Sauce is approved anytime. Can polish a ball like a marble in 5 mins by hand.
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Re: Surface Changes and USBC
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2015, 10:16:00 PM »
Quote from: DOWNTOWN on September 06, 2015, 09:20:17 PM
U can still add polish to a ball during league. I do it all the time Lane 1 Secret Sauce is approved anytime. Can polish a ball like a marble in 5 mins by hand.

I really don't understand the reasoning by the USBC on this one but I take advantage of the rule as well.
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Re: Surface Changes and USBC
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2015, 11:12:06 PM »
Quote from: Aloarjr810 on September 06, 2015, 03:24:39 PM
Quote from: MI 2 AZ on September 06, 2015, 03:18:54 PM
While you can't add more friction to the ball, aren't the Lustre Kings legal to use to add polish to a ball during competition?



Not anymore, they changed the rule a while back. You must have forgot
http://www.ballreviews.com/miscellaneous/ball-polisher-no-longer-legal-during-competition-t303838.0.html



Wow, my memory is really starting to fail me on a regular basis now.  Thanks for that reminder.  :)

I did forget that topic.  Now, I have to remember that at the lanes.

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Re: Surface Changes and USBC
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2015, 11:59:11 PM »
Me personally would think it could turn into a cluster f**k as one would see a qualified individual sanding there ball and they'd wanna do it...to me it's a little overkill
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Re: Surface Changes and USBC
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2015, 08:46:11 AM »
Protecting people from themselves is a good point.

On the other hand if it was allowed imagine how fun it would be stocking up on 240 grit pads to hand out when someone asks to sand a ball after seeing it done by others during league….. And chalk for all
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Re: Surface Changes and USBC
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2015, 09:56:44 AM »
Why not just move your feet? Adjust speed, adjust hand position? Are bowlers getting this lazy?
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