Author Topic: USBC and PBA (Read 12789 times)

chitown · « **on:** March 14, 2008, 03:55:59 AM »

If the USBC joined forces with the PBA and set up a 3 dollar increase on the USBC membership with all the money going right to the prize fund for the PBA would you agree with it?

I for one would pay the xtra 3 dollars just too help bring the PBA to where it should be.

How many USBC members are there? How much money would be raised with my idea?

NicholasE · « **Reply #1 on:** March 14, 2008, 12:00:42 PM »

Thats a tuff tear because yeah i would like to help but its not really helping me...lol im just so self centered... But no really I would pay it, wouldn't have a problem with it, its just 3 bucks.
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Aristotle · « **Reply #2 on:** March 14, 2008, 12:03:38 PM »

Um.. Why should *I* have to pay for other bowlers' benefit? I do enjoy watching the pros on TV, but I don't feel that I should have to pay to enjoy watching it. If the PBA really wants to revive itself, it should look at putting out a better product and actually be paid to be on TV instead of paying to be on TV. With the vast number of things wrong with this game, any additional money spent on fees should go towards fixing the problems at hand, not supporting a failing product.

pianoman1226 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 14, 2008, 12:04:14 PM »

ABSOLUTELY!!! 100% If it means the survival of our beloved sport
and the opportunity for my children and grandchildren to be
able to see the best bowlers in the world on TV. I think 3 bucks a
year is defiantly not to much to ask!
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chitown · « **Reply #4 on:** March 14, 2008, 12:12:42 PM »

I'm really surprised that some of you wouldn't want to help keep the PBA going in the right direction. It's 3 lousy dollars!

JOE FALCO · « **Reply #5 on:** March 14, 2008, 12:14:24 PM »

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USBC had 2,608,279 members during the 2006/07 season. Membership for the 2005/06 season was 2,728,590.

If my figures are right .. you're suggesting an additional 7.8 million a year to support the PBA .. are you kidding? I thought the USBC was having money problems?

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chitown · « **Reply #6 on:** March 14, 2008, 12:14:39 PM »

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No. I will not subsidize the PBA. I have nothing to gain. Why would you want to contribute to a prize fund you cannot win? If think a subsidy will return the PBA to its former heyday, you are sadly mistaken.

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Prize money is what will bring the PBA up! Why do you think Texas Hold'em Poker is popular? It's because of the huge money payouts for the tournements! Thats' the ONLY reason poker is on TV!

justdale · « **Reply #7 on:** March 14, 2008, 12:15:06 PM »

What the PBA needs to do is stop paying ESPN for being on TV, also, they need to find a way to get more corporate sponsorship.
I Can't see how Joe Bowler that bowls once a week with his wife should have to help subsidise the PBA.

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chitown · « **Reply #8 on:** March 14, 2008, 12:17:01 PM »

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USBC had 2,608,279 members during the 2006/07 season. Membership for the 2005/06 season was 2,728,590.

If my figures are right .. you're suggesting an additional 7.8 million a year to support the PBA .. are you kidding? I thought the USBC was having money problems?
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To go to the prize fund period! This would draw more attention to the sport and increase interest! Another thing the PBA has to do is not brodcast on Sunday's! They can't compete with the NFL or NASCAR!

The bottom line for you would be 3 dollars! I really don't think that 3 dollars per year is going to break anyone.

chitown · « **Reply #9 on:** March 14, 2008, 12:19:14 PM »

Wow I didn't realize that 3 dollars a year was such a big deal to you guys? Are you guys USBC members? Do you guys complain when the USBC increases it's yearly dues? Do you sit back and say what's the USBC done for ME?

dpunky · « **Reply #10 on:** March 14, 2008, 12:21:02 PM »

I don't think USBC members should subsidize the PBA. The PBA needs more corporate sponsorship and a better marketing strategy to encourage more viewers to watch the PBA shows, and to pay for PBA licensed products. No other Professional organization encourages amateur member groups to subsidize them.

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triggerman · « **Reply #11 on:** March 14, 2008, 12:21:35 PM »

3 bucks a memeber, 24 stops, adds 325000 to the prize fund, If every tourney had a top prize of at least 125k the pba would be a whole lot bigger then it is and "should" trickle down to increased usbc membership. Although for your contribution, I think the pba at that point should cease with the licensing of their patterns to houses, and let any league that is contributing to the continued support of the pba, use those patterns freely. I have always been a fan of the usbc helping support the pba. But the pba would need to do away with the exempt plan before I would buy into such a merger
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dogman666 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 14, 2008, 12:21:36 PM »

Make it 5 dollars and take the 10 million and invest. This should give you plenty of cash flow for decent payouts.

chitown · « **Reply #13 on:** March 14, 2008, 12:23:19 PM »

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Make it 5 dollars and take the 10 million and invest. This should give you plenty of cash flow for decent payouts.

I would chip in 5 dollars a year for that! Your right, if invested properly and safely they could keep the flow of money going for the prize payouts.

Joeyd · « **Reply #14 on:** March 14, 2008, 12:23:52 PM »

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Wow I didn't realize that 3 dollars a year was such a big deal to you guys? Are you guys USBC members? Do you guys complain when the USBC increases it's yearly dues? Do you sit back and say what's the USBC done for ME?

If I had to guess, I'd say that it isn't the 3 dollars that's a big deal at all. It's the principle of the matter. As for asking what the USBC has done for me, no I don't do that. However, that's only because I'm on the smaller scale trying to figure out if my local association is ever going to do anything for the bowlers..

For the record, you can't use poker as an example. The PPA (Poker Players Association) doesn't put money into these big events because their members are playing. The prize funds come directly from entries. I'm sure poker players wouldn't subsidize something that they have no chance at winning. I believe that's called -EV (negative expected value) on the poker side of the fence.
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