Author Topic: Wrist Supports (Read 13500 times)

Reality Check · « **on:** October 19, 2008, 10:01:20 PM »

I was just trying to find out how many (if any) pro bowlers use wrist supports, specifically gladiators/robbys revs etc?
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cheech · « **Reply #1 on:** October 20, 2008, 09:10:15 AM »

scroggins uses one. i think its the storm one though.
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Phoneman · « **Reply #2 on:** October 20, 2008, 09:15:53 AM »

robby Revs are not allowed on the tour.

Necromancer · « **Reply #3 on:** October 20, 2008, 10:08:24 AM »

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robby Revs are not allowed on the tour.

LOL, not at you but at the idea of them being allowed. I don't think anything on the bowling arm or wrist should be allowed. That is a big part of the game. If you can't keep your wrist/arm/elbow/etc steady or whatever, hit the gym, or don't even bowl. I don't use anything in my league. Some others have a whole mechanical arm on their bowling arm. It is ridiculous. All you basically gotta do is swing your arm back and then forward and let go. For the ones that cup your wrist automatically, where is the skill involved? LOL!

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LuckyLefty · « **Reply #4 on:** October 20, 2008, 10:12:45 AM »

Well....they have always been allowed!

I am a fan of them....and if one thinks they are an advantage ....why wouldn't a person use them under the allowable rules?

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS lately I have not used one!
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Phoneman · « **Reply #5 on:** October 20, 2008, 10:14:15 AM »

While i understand what you you are complaining about some of us that do use a mechanical wrist support do so for a couple of reasons. 1. i had wrist surgery 3 years ago and the wrist strenght was not there. 2. wrist surgery was due to too much cupping of the wrist while bowling. 3. i use mine so I dont cup the wrist any more not too add more cupping. There are reasons for everything and some are very valid. before you complain about people using devices you should understand why the person is using it.

Ps I did take mine off last week to try without it agian no change in scores but wrist was hurting again. Back on it goes this week.

Edited on 10/20/2008 10:15 AM

Dan Belcher · « **Reply #6 on:** October 20, 2008, 10:20:18 AM »

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robby Revs are not allowed on the tour.

LOL, not at you but at the idea of them being allowed. I don't think anything on the bowling arm or wrist should be allowed. That is a big part of the game. If you can't keep your wrist/arm/elbow/etc steady or whatever, hit the gym, or don't even bowl. I don't use anything in my league. Some others have a whole mechanical arm on their bowling arm. It is ridiculous. All you basically gotta do is swing your arm back and then forward and let go. For the ones that cup your wrist automatically, where is the skill involved? LOL!

You mean where's the skill in repeating your shots, hitting your target, maintaining ball speed, releasing the ball the same each time, playing the lanes correctly, choosing the right ball, making your spares, keeping a strong mental game, etc. etc.? Oh yeah, wrist braces completely take the skill out of the game...

They keep your wrist in place. That doesn't make your game necessarily better or worse. They limit your options in how you can release the ball. The best, most powerful releases involve uncupping the wrist at the release point, which is impossible to do when wearing a brace, for example. Some people are simply too weak-wristed (no matter how much we try to improve our strength) to not have their wrist break back without a brace. Not to mention those who NEED to wear a wrist brace because bowling without one causes significant pain. They are also good at preventing future injury since it takes quite a bit of strain off an easily-damaged part of your body.

How about trying worrying more about your own game and less about others?

Necromancer · « **Reply #7 on:** October 20, 2008, 10:24:20 AM »

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Well....they have always been allowed!

I am a fan of them....and if one thinks they are an advantage ....why wouldn't a person use them under the allowable rules?

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS lately I have not used one!
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It's only an advantage to the person that can't control their wrist or have a weak wrist. I have neither. Therefore it would not be an advantage for me to use one. I'm just sick of people having the full mechanical wrist + elbow support + tape over their index finger to hook more or they say + all this other stuff.

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scotts33 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 20, 2008, 10:30:06 AM »

Bench: 250lbs
Deadlift: 450lbs
Squat: 380lbs

Necro,

Make sure you don't use any wrist wraps, knee supports or weight lifting belts when you lift weights either.

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Necromancer · « **Reply #9 on:** October 20, 2008, 10:34:53 AM »

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Bench: 250lbs
Deadlift: 450lbs
Squat: 380lbs

Necro,

Make sure you don't use any wrist wraps, knee supports or weight lifting belts when you lift weights either.
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LOL, well squatting 400lbs is a lot more intensive than rolling a 15lbs ball down a lane 60 ft hehe.

Also I only use knee supports on leg presses because I go up to 800-1000lbs.
Never use belts because my back is wider than a standard door hehe.

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In seriousness, I was talking with bowlers in major tournaments or those on the pro tour. League bowlers are welcome to wear whatever they want since nothing major is on the line.

Edited on 10/20/2008 10:36 AM

scotts33 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 20, 2008, 10:41:33 AM »

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Also I only use knee supports on leg presses because I go up to 800-1000lbs.

Pu$$y!!!

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In seriousness, I was talking with bowlers in major tournaments or those on the pro tour. League bowlers are welcome to wear whatever they want since nothing major is on the line.

Then, you'd need to remove about 1/2 of the best female bowlers in the world.
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LuckyLefty · « **Reply #11 on:** October 20, 2008, 10:46:36 AM »

Me feels you speak out of both sides of mouth....

You say....too easy with wrist brace then if they have not worked out wrist they should bowl worse.

So to be a bowler one must be a man(as stated by Scott33) and must endeavor to work out his wrist because you do.... In your opinion???

Regards,

Luckylefty
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supernoodle · « **Reply #12 on:** October 20, 2008, 10:57:18 AM »

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I am a fan of them....and if one thinks they are an advantage ....why wouldn't a person use them under the allowable rules?

Exactly! I find that people who whine about the use of wrist braces have usually had their backside handed to them by someone wearing a brace and they try to use that as a reason as to why they were beaten.
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Edited on 10/20/2008 10:59 AM

Necromancer · « **Reply #13 on:** October 20, 2008, 11:02:31 AM »

quote:
quote:
I am a fan of them....and if one thinks they are an advantage ....why wouldn't a person use them under the allowable rules?

Exactly! I find that people who whine about the use of wrist braces have usually had their backside handed to them by someone wearing a brace and they try to use that as a reason as to why they were beaten.
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I would have got away with it if it was not for those pesky kids (Behind my lane) and those blasted 10 pins.

Edited on 10/20/2008 10:59 AM

LOL! Kind of heheh. The top substitute in our league average around 230 and uses a mechanical arm with a sick hook.

One of the top bowlers last year had a mechanical arm from hand to elbow and had a nasty hook (not good nasty, just bad nasty). The ball went right up the 2nd arrow and hooked like 2 boards at the end LOL. He wound up bowling the only 300 of the year. He beat the previous high game in the league by your's truly - 290. I don't wear nothing but a tee shirt and jeans but he gets to bring his towel and his mechanical arm and weak hook and take my money!?

Rant.
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rockerbowler18 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 20, 2008, 11:07:53 AM »

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quote:
quote:
I am a fan of them....and if one thinks they are an advantage ....why wouldn't a person use them under the allowable rules?

Exactly! I find that people who whine about the use of wrist braces have usually had their backside handed to them by someone wearing a brace and they try to use that as a reason as to why they were beaten.
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I would have got away with it if it was not for those pesky kids (Behind my lane) and those blasted 10 pins.

Edited on 10/20/2008 10:59 AM

LOL! Kind of heheh. The top substitute in our league average around 230 and uses a mechanical arm with a sick hook.

One of the top bowlers last year had a mechanical arm from hand to elbow and had a nasty hook (not good nasty, just bad nasty). The ball went right up the 2nd arrow and hooked like 2 boards at the end LOL. He wound up bowling the only 300 of the year. He beat the previous high game in the league by your's truly - 290. I don't wear nothing but a tee shirt and jeans but he gets to bring his towel and his mechanical arm and weak hook and take my money!?

Rant.
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I'm actually going to have to take Necromancer's side on this one. I don't complain about it or anything, but I think the only real reason to use one is if it's medically impossible for you to do it without one.

These complete robo arms, where you can instantly with the click of a button or flip of a switch, create more area, more/less hook, more/less tilt, more/less turn, etc. are kind of ridiculous. I have nothing against a wrist SUPPORT for someone who needs it, but a robo arm that does all of the work in wrist action for you is kind of over the top. Managing to keep the same wrist position shot after shot is a VERY tough skill to master, and I don't think $50 should be able to master it for you.

That being said, I do believe there are disadvantages to using them as well, and I certainly do not complain about this rule. There are many, many other rules that are higher on my list of ridiculous rules than this one.
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