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redtop

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WSOB Chameleon
« on: December 17, 2013, 07:35:23 PM »
Does anyone else have a problem believing in a level playing field when
3 right-handers can't shoot above 203, and the sole left-hander can't shoot below
235?  I'm not here to stoke the usual flames about lefties always having an easier
lane condition, because that simply isn't true.  Some would argue that the pattern
just breaks down that way, but this is hard to believe when the number of games
bowled on the pair is only 6!  If a pattern can't hold up equitably for lefties and righties over a measly 6 games, it simply shouldn't be used.  Watching this particular telecast, I am reminded again of what a lousy job the PBA is doing marketing the sport--let's not forget the lack of live coverage, and how about the recent posting that only Dexter shoes will be allowed on Tour?  I haven't checked, but they're probably owned by Storm. Is this kind of totalitarian clubbiness really necessary?
It really looks bad.

 
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MJH

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2013, 11:43:03 AM »
itsallaboutme

+1 (x100,000)

- Bowling is declining on many levels
- Bowlers in-the-know don't respect PBA bowling (but complain about its downfall)
- Handicap tournaments are largely more profitable than your average PBA event(s)
- Sandbagging is at an all time high
- People want a ball both that hooks up front and downlane (I'm sure pro shoppers can relate, lol)

The level of complaining about bowling pitfalls seems more common than sticking together and helping our sport continue to have longevity...

Cyril The Syrup

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2013, 02:06:59 PM »
If you want equality why not have a fresh shot for each match?

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2013, 02:29:12 PM »
Okay...

You do realize they practice for quite some time before the match.  So if more righties well then they will blow the pattern up more in practice.

Or you can watch this and learn...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P7ZOLdxr3c
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srlunatic

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2013, 02:37:29 PM »
Plus knowing Dom...I am sure he would love the ball back in the 6th......that was the match right there...
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MJH

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2013, 02:38:48 PM »
srlunatic

^ is correct... as I've chimed in earlier... this years WSOB practice time on the tv pair was limited from last years WSOB (commissioners ruling)...

Wherever this is going who knows, lol... (I was on set at last years WSOB, blah blah)...

I'd imagine PBA likely wanted to change things up a bit with decreasing tv pair practice which likely prevents less change to pattern shape for the challenger (hence the stub-lane which was/is off-camera).

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2013, 02:40:25 PM »
I mean oil before EACH match ..... both players could have 1 or 2 practise shots on each lane then start the match.

MJH

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2013, 02:43:13 PM »
srlunatic

That left lane was and still sucks (even from last year)... imo having the show on the actual lanes at the Point would be better for the players.

Although I'd imagine South Point needs those lanes back asap as their open play is unreal. Hmm, $6 a game not including shoe rental for a over a PBA telecast which shuts down the whole half of the house (for no money)... hmm....

lol

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2013, 02:47:30 PM »
Don't want to speak for Dom....but I am sure that if he strikes in the 6th it is a totally different match and result...
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itsallaboutme

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2013, 03:02:43 PM »
If South Point can pay for Gaughan's kid to go racing, keeping the bowling center closed for a couple more days ain't gonna make a bit of difference in the whole scheme of things.

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2013, 08:33:09 PM »
Overall very uninformed

Does anyone else have a problem believing in a level playing field when
3 right-handers can't shoot above 203, and the sole left-hander can't shoot below
235?  I'm not here to stoke the usual flames about lefties always having an easier
lane condition, because that simply isn't true.  Some would argue that the pattern
just breaks down that way, but this is hard to believe when the number of games
bowled on the pair is only 6!  If a pattern can't hold up equitably for lefties and righties over a measly 6 games, it simply shouldn't be used.  Watching this particular telecast, I am reminded again of what a lousy job the PBA is doing marketing the sport--let's not forget the lack of live coverage, and how about the recent posting that only Dexter shoes will be allowed on Tour?  I haven't checked, but they're probably owned by Storm. Is this kind of totalitarian clubbiness really necessary?
It really looks bad.

 
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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2013, 09:26:42 PM »
Re: video link from SR Lunatic.  Great commercial for Storm!  Yeah, I learned
a lot (not!).

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2013, 05:20:25 AM »
Never understood why they allow them to break it down in the first place. Its almost like allowing golfers to dig a channel so the ball can roll into the whole.

Anyways the lefty had the advantage but as the week before that proved you still gotta make good shots. He did that this week, he didn't the week before and lost in the title match.

redtop

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2013, 09:02:30 AM »
The analogy with golf is an interesting one, and I think has some merit.
I wonder what the history of "lane grooming" is.  Probably over the years it
has moved from the subtle, "don't ask, don't tell" philosophy to today's blatant,
in your face with the abralon pads attitude.

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2013, 09:19:13 AM »
What about the tournament shifts?  Some post higher scores on the fresh and some do on the broken down, so why does the pattern have to be fresh for 3-4 games?

There is no way they blow apart the integrity of the pattern in practice.  They may shape it some, but the pattern is still there.  They aren't turning the Chameleon into a house shot with a few minutes of practice.

I say let them do as they will. It's becoming part of the sport.  If there were three lefties, the show would have gone the same way, with Randy talking about how the righty can do whatever he wants.  If that were the case, I don't think this would be such a polarizing topic.

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Re: WSOB Chameleon
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2013, 09:53:36 AM »
As one poster has posted twice, why not re-oil after each match?