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9299 - Drilling & Layouts / Re: Symmetrical layout for low track low speed
« Last post by king of the mill on Today at 12:28:12 AM »
Short pin layouts (pin distances from 1 1/4" - 2 1/4" from your PAP) work extremely well for many lower speed rev dominant bowlers. 

Have you measured your tilt?  A lowered PAP number does not always equate to a higher tilt number.  I would choose the actual layout distance based on your measured tilt. https://youtu.be/jVsTEuRUvi8?si=v_sNT6jjjv1fVqkJ

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55194 - Ebonite / Re: Fireball Pearl Purple/Gold
« Last post by newman19 on May 30, 2024, 04:48:29 PM »
LANE CONDITION

Length: 43

Volume: 23 mls

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


COMMENTS

Likes: FIREBALL!!!! Last year Ebonite came out with a ball called Fireball. I did not try one, but my friend Craig Miller swore by it. Then he shot a couple 300's & a couple 800's. Recently Ebonite came out with the Fireball Purple & Gold. Well, I wasn't going to miss out a 2nd time. So glad I ordered one. This is a ball designed for medium to dry lanes, but so far, I've liked it on the fresh for our House Shot. This ball has the same core but a little different formulation of the cover-stock chemistry. GB11.2 w/ HK22 vs GB10.7 w/HK22 which I'm told gives this ball a little stronger change of direction when it reads the friction. All I can tell you beyond that is, I like the shape it creates, I like the way it goes through the pins, and being a "mid" performance ball, it won't break the bank.

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8535 - Miscellaneous / Re: Donkee replacement parts
« Last post by Jesse James on May 30, 2024, 04:12:06 PM »
I'm probably one of the few old heads that also owns an old Donkee spinner. I might be able to help if you posted a picture of what you're talking about. My spinner is just a 1 speed and fairly simple to operate. Hit me back!
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56554 - Track / Track Tundra Blue Fire (WWRD 6/13/2024)
« Last post by Juan Fonseca on May 30, 2024, 03:07:41 PM »
Track Tundra Blue Fire   @15lbs 2.561 .030      HK22/DynamiCore
WWRD 06/13/2024      Alternate Cores 12-13lb      Volume-Light to Medium
Core- Track Symmetric         Coverstock- HK22 DR-6 Pearl (NEW)
Are you bowling on higher friction or “dry” lanes? Look at the Tundra Blue Fire as a possible answer. It is a slightly stronger version of the Tundra Fire (4/20/2023) due to the DR-6 Pearl additive package with the HK22 base. This one will pick up earlier in the mid lane and have a rounded shape. The Tundra Fire is still a good option if you like seeing a little more angular motion. Low diff doesn’t mean less hook. It helps control the ball motion when the lanes are tricky or have high friction. Take a look at the video on Track’s website and see how clean and controlled the response is from steeper angles. Don’t forget DynamiCore is there for added hitting power and durability. The Tundra Blue Fire would be a ball if your clean equipment is too angular on lighter volumes.
Box Surface- 500/1000/1500 Siaair/Crown Factory Compound   Color- Blue
Recommended Cleaner: Power House Ball Cleaner      www.TrackBowling.com
https://trackbowling.com/products/tundra-blue-fire
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56554 - Radical / Radical Max Bias (WWRD 6/14/2024)
« Last post by Juan Fonseca on May 30, 2024, 03:05:55 PM »

Radical Max Bias       @15lbs 2.494 .050 .030      DynamiCore/HK22
WWRD 06/13/2024    (12-16lbs)   12-16 lbs Alternate Cores on 12-13lbs
Volume- Medium-Heavy   Core- Maximum Results Asym    Coverstock-HK22+ Textured Hybrid
Radical is bringing back the Maximum Results core in the new Radical Max Bias. The Maximum Results was a big ball that would roll forward a little early if there wasn’t enough volume down lane. The big diff of .050 intermediate diff of .030 is a slot of engine. High speed dominant bowlers really liked it. Updating the cover to the HK22+ Textured Hybrid will blend the ball motion out for more bowlers. This is the tournament ball for heavy volumes. Depending on your specs, the after drilling numbers for layout A can blow up the numbers to .062 and .044 respectively; that’s a lot of ball! New to the Top Shelf for Radical is producing this level of ball in the 12 and 13lb weights. There is a core change, but this combo creates a big ball for those who use these weights. The Radical Maximum Results core is a Mo Heritage Series ball and Mo would like the hook power.
Box Surface- 500/1500 Siaair      Color- Blue/Aqua
Recommended Cleaner: Power House Clean N’ Dull      www.RadicalBowling.com https://radicalbowling.com/products/balls/current/max-bias
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56554 - Radical / Radical Rattler NU (WWRD 6/13/2024)
« Last post by Juan Fonseca on May 30, 2024, 03:04:33 PM »
Radical Rattler NU       @15lbs 2.480       .035 DynamiCore
WWRD 06/13/2024    (12-16 lbs)   Alternate Core 12-13 lbs   Volume- Light to Medium      Core- Rattler Symmetric   Coverstock- Not Urethane Pearl
The NU cover gives the traction characteristics of urethane but allows for a touch more forgiveness. This is the same cover that’s on the Hammer NU but with the Rattler core. The core shape and numbers give the Rattler NU a stronger and smoother reaction from front to back. The numbers are stronger due to the use of DynamiCore instead of the thick cover in the 14-16lb Hammer NUs. That strength difference continues through all the available weights. Bowlers who like to be closer to the oil line and be more direct will like this ball. Speak with your Shop Technician for layout options based on your numbers. A surface adjustment may be needed but roll it a few games so you can gather info, if you think a change is needed.
Box Surface- 500/1000 Siaair    Color- Teal
Recommended Cleaner: Power House Clean N’ Dull      www.RadicalBowling.com   https://radicalbowling.com/products/balls/current/rattler-nu
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56554 - Columbia 300 / Columbia300 Messenger PowerCOR Pearl (WWRD 6/13/2024)
« Last post by Juan Fonseca on May 30, 2024, 03:01:36 PM »
Columbia300 Messenger PowerCOR Pearl      @15lbs 2.515 .040      DynamiCore/HK22
WWRD 06/13/2024    (10-16lbs)      Alternate Cores 12-13lbs & 10-11lbs   Volume- Light to Medium Core- Messenger PowerCOR       Coverstock- HK22 Reflex Pearl
The popular Messenger nameplate goes back to its roots as well as adding new tech to bring a fantastic light volume option at a great price point. 2 Years ago C300 brought back the messengers in a solid and pearl version. They were an option for lighter volumes, a transition ball for later games or a reactive choice for bowlers getting their first ball. Going back to the original color of Black/Gold and using an HK22 base with the Reflex Pearl package, Columbia300 has upped the performance in the Messenger level. This ball is a step down in core from the Kaboom with the same cover at a smoother box surface.
Box Surface- 500/1000/2000 Siaair/Crown Factory Compound    Color- Black/Gold
Recommended Cleaner: Power House Ball Cleaner      www.Columbia300.com
https://columbia300.com/collections/balls/products/messenger-powercor-pearl
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56554 - Brunswick / Brunswick Intense Mindset (WWRD 6/13/2024)
« Last post by Juan Fonseca on May 30, 2024, 03:00:00 PM »
Brunswick Intense Mindset      @15lbs 2.487 .050 .021   DynamiCore/D.O.T/HK22
WWRD 06/13/2024   (12-16lbs)      Alternate Core 12-13 lbs      Volume- Medium-Heavy
Core- Mindset         Coverstock- HK22 Evolution Pearl
Big core bowling balls have their use. Sometimes it’s to start on a heavy volume fresh and other times they help high speed, lower rev rate players to get the ball to slow down in the right part of the lane. The original Mindset did that on the higher levels of bowling, but was sometimes too strong for the majority of daily patterns. The Perfect Mindset was a great step down, but moving in on some occasions the ball needed to continue more to carry. The new Intense Mindset has the same cover and prep as the Brunswick Quantum EVO Response. That combo was angular off the pattern. The Mindset core will read earlier than the EVO but longer and quicker than the Perfect to create more entry angle. This is a great choice for a big cored pearl addition to an arsenal.
Box Surface- 500/1000/1500 Siaair /Crown Factory Compound     Color- Black/Orange/Purple
Recommended Cleaner: Brunswick Reaction Recharge      www.BrunswickBowling.com  https://brunswickbowling.com/products/balls/current/intense-mindset
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58758 - Drilling & Layouts / Re: Symmetrical layout for low track low speed
« Last post by bowler33 on May 30, 2024, 12:00:15 PM »
I seem to get better carry now with the lower track. If you watch some of MO Panels old videoes he specifically mentions that if you stay behind the ball too much,.you better bring your spare ball. He advocates for really getting around the ball for today's game. So I am just trying to find some layouts that will maximize this new track. I do welcome these comments and am always trying to improve my game. Was thinking about drilling the SUBLIME like the Shock, but moving over about 1 1/2 or 2 inches away from the VAL. Low flare with a 20-30 degree VAL angle. Any thoughts?
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57802 - Drilling & Layouts / Re: Symmetrical layout for low track low speed
« Last post by justlane on May 30, 2024, 08:07:32 AM »
This is not a layout idea, but a suggestion based on a recent personal experience.

Recently I noticed my track was lower than normal, so checked my PAP, and sure enough, it was.  My experience told me to get the thumb out earlier so I spent the next two weeks focusing on that, and better ball motion returned. 

If I were you I'd try that because the results were immediate and obvious.  Staying behind the ball longer and freeing up the arm swing were critical to me using less grip pressure and fixing the problem I had slowly gotten into.

Layout is third down the list of importance to ball motion behind 1) the bowler's speed, release characteristics, etc, and 2) surface texture of the ball.  When we track that low and have so much tilt we "paint ourselves into a corner" so to speak, and limit what layout options are there. 

If you train yourself to work on #1 above then your bowling will open up options rather than limit them.  Just an idea from personal experience and not criticizing anything about where you're at. 


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