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Winner Solid
« on: November 14, 2018, 11:06:14 AM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
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Roto Grip continues their winning streak with the Winner Solid bowling ball. This ball uses the Altered Hotshot core wich was designed to offer the length and reaction needed at the HP2 performance level. The VTC-S18 Solid coverstock provides traction down the lane without reacting too early. This ball is best used on medium to medium/heavy oil conditions when it will clear the front part of the lane easily and then give ample backend motion.

Color: Black / Purple / Green
All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown
Coverstock: VTC-S18 Solid Reactive
Core: Altered Hotshot Core
Finish: 3000-grit Pad
Recommended Lane Condition: Medium to Medium/Heavy Oil
RG: 2.54**
Differential: 0.054**
** RG and Diff are based off of 15 lb. balls

 

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Re: Winner Solid
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2018, 05:53:23 AM »
When I got the chance to test the Winner Solid it was after leagues had finished. The lanes were pretty burnt up which was desired since I had preconceptions of using the Winner Solid on transition.

The feedback I saw from the testing was that it was smooth rolling and controllable, however; it did get down the lane further than the other balls available in the Storm/Roto lineup. This is mainly due to the higher RG of the ball. I liked what I saw from the Winner Solid as I generally have a favorability to throw solid/surfaced benchmark bowling balls.

I plan on incorporating this ball into my arsenal immediately as it will give me a ball to jump to when my lower RG or Asymmetrical balls are no longer matching up and the need arises to jump to something less aggressive that will store energy and give me motion down lane.

Bigmike

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Re: Winner Solid
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2018, 10:17:26 AM »
My specs are 16.5 mph ball speed with about 285-315 RPM rev rate. New axis pts are 4 1/2 > 1/2 ^. I need my tilt and rotation checked but it used to be around 15* tilt with 35* rotation. Tweener with softer speed is my style.

I drilled up my WINNER SOLID with a benchmark layout for me of 65 x 4.5 x 35 with no hole. I left it box finish to try it out first before adjusting. Early opinion is smooth rolling with good push in the fronts. Obviously the shape in the back was very close to the original WINNER when it made it's move.

I have only used this on house and it is great for getting close to the oil line and letting the side and back end friction of the lane correct it to the pocket. This is not the heavy oiler the SHOW OFF was. Different cover on the WINNER SOLID compared to the SHOW OFF even though the shape of the weight block is the same (except for the puck on the bottom which increased the diff on the WINNERS).

Compared to some current balls, the WINNER SOLID is definitely about 6 and 3 right of my PHYSIX. My HYROAD X even with the shine knocked off is still stronger and the HYROAD X specs are weaker compared to the WINNER SOLID. My HALO is about 6 and 3 stronger as is my IDOL SOLID. No surprise as we are comparing apples to oranges with the stronger covers/cores in the Storm family. I will say the HYROAD X having a stronger move at the spot was my biggest surprise but the cover should be stronger also on the HYROAD X.

Drill this one up if you are looking for something that clears the fronts easier than the stronger balls but does not float like a Pearl can tend to do in this spot in the Storm/Roto line-ups. This should also be a great ball for the mediums like volume and length when you want to control the backend and the SHOW OFF is just too early at the break point.
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Re: Winner Solid
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2018, 12:53:46 PM »
The Winner Solid features the same Altered Hot Shot Core from the Winner, plus the solid version of the same coverstock, and the result is the second coming of the Torrent for me.  Very smooth and controllable, good length for a solid but with the traction to really blend wet/dry and hook.  For me it seems most at home on difficult conditions or on house shots with really strong backends.  Itís been really hard for me to put down unless thereís just too much oil out there or the backends are soft, itís been a personal favorite of mine since Iíve gotten it and itís gone everywhere with me.  Itís a great compliment to the original Winner as they both feel very familiar, the solid version is just earlier, smoother, and a couple boards stronger.  Very highly recommend this one for medium conditions.

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Roto Grip Winner Solid Review by Casey Murphy
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2018, 09:22:39 PM »
Orientation:  Right Handed
Rev Rate:  375 RPM
Speed:  16-17 MPH
PAP:  4 5/8 straight across

Location:  Enterprise Park Lanes, Springfield MO
Pattern:  High Volume THS
Layout:  45, 6, 45

The Winner Solid is a great step up from the Winner.  I loved my Winner, but it was SO long and sideways at times.  I sometimes found myself needing an earlier, smoother version of the Winner.  The Winner Solid solves that problem.  It picks up a bunch earlier and is SOOOOO smooth at the breakpoint.  I can see myself starting with the Winner Solid on the fresh and going to the Winner when they breakdown. 

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Winner Solid
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2018, 04:23:15 PM »
I drilled my Roto Grip Winner Solid 5.5 x 5 x 5. Just after a first few shots I noticed that this ball is smoother and more continuous than the original. The Winner Solid is just a touch stronger than the Hustle Ink but the Ink has much more response on the back end. This ball will be the first ball out of my bag on those patterns between 38-40 ft or just after my iQ Tour. 

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Re: Winner Solid
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2018, 01:34:41 PM »

Roto Grip Winner Solid

Core: Altered Hot Shot

Cover: VTC-S18

I set up the Winner solid to cover a light oil/burn spot in my arsenal. I have used the Winner for that to this point and now looking to add a smoother reacting ball.

Winner Solid is set up 70x2.5x40 (Winner was set up 70x5x35).

Drilled the Winner Solid with a closer pin to pap and higher VAL in hope to smooth out the reaction a little bit. Again, looking for a smoother compliment to the Winner...which has been a great light oil ball for me.

Winner Solid is a perfect fit. It gives me the ability to play a few boards right on my normal starting position on a fresh house shot and the option of staying right longer than any other ball in my arsenal. I think the Winner Solid with a short pin to pap, and a little less flare than I am use to, gives me a motion I did not have with any other piece.

I highly recommend this ball. Winner Solid and the Winner make a great 1-2 punch on light-med oil.