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charlest

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Help me understand Marketing 101: Timeless.
« on: January 06, 2017, 02:53:14 PM »
R2S hybrid over a medium-high RG, high differential core = Hy-Road.
Add Belmonte's name, change the name of the ball to Timeless and you can add $50 to the price?
Hy-Road - $119.95, Timeless - $169.95

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Re: Help me understand Marketing 101: Timeless.
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2017, 09:53:12 PM »
More Diff and the cover did change to 2 parts pearl/1 part solid. I think what the real point behind the ball was that Belmonte isn't on fire lately like he was because the Hy-road isn't getting it done for him so he tried to modernize it. In all honesty, the ball probably rolls nicely but we'll see.
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Re: Help me understand Marketing 101: Timeless.
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2017, 09:55:45 PM »
I'm waiting for the Signature "S" (senior) line

The PDW "suck it" with the crotch chop logo.

The Duke "hazard" with a smiley face.

on a serious note.... lol the $169 and knowing they're going off the hyroad platform just turned me off... I'll just stock up on hyroads..


That's great and all, the real Hyroads, the good pours, are NOT EASY to find. People in the know, know. The good batches are fetching serious coin, not $100.

I got a newer pour, 2015....It's pretty damn good.  Idk if I got an above average one or what...But it exactly what my 09 is and was....Lucky me :)
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Re: Help me understand Marketing 101: Timeless.
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2017, 08:17:31 AM »
The 2014 and 15 Hy-Roads were pretty good from my observation. No experience with a 16.
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Re: Help me understand Marketing 101: Timeless.
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2017, 09:35:13 AM »
 Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, you poor man. How can you not see how much greater the ball will be after they change the name and the logo on it.  I mean, won't that nake ALL the difference?

 You ask a question.  You wanted to know if, since bowling is dying, why are they pumping out more and more balls?

 Answer: If most people had money invested in a cow, and knew it would soon die, would they hold on to it, or sell it as fast as possible?

 That question has a similar answer to yours........................................

 The ballcos dont care about bowlers, nor do they care about bowling.

 
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Re: Help me understand Marketing 101: Timeless.
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2017, 12:03:13 PM »
Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, you poor man. How can you not see how much greater the ball will be after they change the name and the logo on it.  I mean, won't that nake ALL the difference?

 You ask a question.  You wanted to know if, since bowling is dying, why are they pumping out more and more balls?

 Answer: If most people had money invested in a cow, and knew it would soon die, would they hold on to it, or sell it as fast as possible?

 That question has a similar answer to yours........................................

 The ballcos dont care about bowlers, nor do they care about bowling.


They better care; without bowling or significant numbers of league bowlers (open bowlers don't buy $150 - $250 balls!), they die or go the way of Lane#1.
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Re: Help me understand Marketing 101: Timeless.
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2017, 01:15:32 AM »
They know its in steep decline, they just don't care. Not as long as the sales numbers get made.

 As long as they do, it is status quo.

They aren't spending their money to build it up, they're just trying to milk it until it does die.

 Like Columbia300, Track, Dynothane, and..........................Lane#1?

 Or until they sell it out.

 Like Brunswick is trying to. Getting out while the gettings good.

 Either way, they get the money, somebody gets screwed, and the cow gets dead eventually.

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Re: Help me understand Marketing 101: Timeless.
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2017, 07:32:45 AM »
Juggernaut,

As a consumer how are you getting screwed and why does it matter how many balls are released?  As far as I know you don't own or are involved with a pro shop or a distributorship.  No one is forcing you to buy anything.  When you are ready to purchase do your research and buy the best available product to fit your needs.  Just like buying a television.  Does it matter how many different models of a 65" TV Sony or Samsung makes or how many Best Buy carries?  No, you figure out how much you want to spend and buy one with the features you want.

And if you are going to blame the decline on competitive bowling on ball manufacturers, stop now.  We both no they aren't the problem.  If you think people like Bill and Barb Chrisman don't care about bowling then this isn't even worth a discussion.

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Re: Help me understand Marketing 101: Timeless.
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2017, 10:07:54 AM »
Lost in the conversation about how it's overpriced marketing (which I'm not disagreeing with):

It will probably be a pretty darn good ball. R2S is gold.

I won't be an early adopter, but if it lives up to it's hype I'll definitely get one. Why not? Not buying useful things because of marketing is just as foolish as buying things because of the marketing.

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Re: Help me understand Marketing 101: Timeless.
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2017, 11:24:37 AM »
There is no pride in ownership anymore, we all are looking for the next ball before the holes are punched in the ball we just bought.  It's like cell phones, you buy one and two months later a new one comes out and we can't wait until we can upgrade lol.  The manufacturers are taking advantage of consumer behavior nowadays.  PSO's have it tough as they have the classic devil & angel on their shoulders, one saying "oh this is the ball for you" and the other "you really don't need this ball" while trying to run a business. 
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Re: Help me understand Marketing 101: Timeless.
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2017, 12:55:44 PM »
nothing to do with this topic just plain disgusted had to vent my frustration espn go to hell they took off bowling today for basketball

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Re: Help me understand Marketing 101: Timeless.
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2017, 01:15:42 PM »
So a taped bowling match vs a live basketball? You know they are going to air the one that will have 4 times as many viewers, right?

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Re: Help me understand Marketing 101: Timeless.
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2017, 01:28:54 PM »
many viewers will still watch bowling over hoops grew up watching bowling in the 70's and 80's had millions of viewers  watching saturday shows on abc with bo and chris

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Re: Help me understand Marketing 101: Timeless.
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2017, 02:04:04 PM »
many viewers will still watch bowling over hoops grew up watching bowling in the 70's and 80's had millions of viewers  watching saturday shows on abc with bo and chris
if every usbc member watches bowling, which they don't, we'd have about a 1.5 million viewers.  I bet the basketball game cleared that with ease in just the local market.

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Re: Help me understand Marketing 101: Timeless.
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2017, 02:21:53 PM »
many viewers will still watch bowling over hoops grew up watching bowling in the 70's and 80's had millions of viewers  watching saturday shows on abc with bo and chris

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Re: Help me understand Marketing 101: Timeless.
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2017, 03:30:37 PM »
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