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cryinryan

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Need advise on bowling balls
« on: August 23, 2014, 08:00:05 AM »
Well took advice form members and went to several proshops.

Finally found one that asked me to throw a few balls before actually trying to sell me one just by looking at me. Gave me an hour long education on the new technology since I haven't bowled in about 20 years. bowled in parent child league this summer with a used Ebonite source-- dont know how they drilled it-- never asked me just took off shelf-- averaged 164

i am a stoker, ave rev, 16 mph- that's all the tech terms i know- sorry
but my pap- was 4x3x4.5


So came down to two balls  Storm IQ Fusion and Storm Byte.  They both appear to be similar.

So I am looking for advice from those of you that have one or both balls and your experience/pros and cons,

or another suggestion-

May shed some light on my decision

thanks

 

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Re: Need advise on bowling balls
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2014, 08:48:06 AM »
i am a stoker, ave rev, 16 mph- that's all the tech terms i know- sorry
but my pap- was 4x3x4.5

just FYI: A 4x3x4.5 isn't a PAP measurement that's a layout.

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Re: Need advise on bowling balls
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2014, 08:54:06 AM »
I'm going to tell you what the pro shop guy won't.  Save fifty bucks and drill a Hy-Road or even a Hot Line ball.  At 164 you have developed the consistency to be able to tell the difference.

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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2014, 09:28:15 AM »
If you are a stroker then the better ball for you would be the Fusion. It's a low RG low diff ball that will keep you either in the track or friction longer. Don't be afraid to hit it with surface so that ball isn't so squirty. Layouts will depend on your stats.

Just have them find your pap for you. It won't take long and it will give them the opportunity to watch you bowl a bit. The easier you make your drillers job the better the Operator can fit your equipment for what you do on the lanes.
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Re: Need advise on bowling balls
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2014, 09:45:25 AM »
First off thank you for the advise and keep it coming.

Went to 6 proshops-- all I learned is that bowling has become too confusing and you can't trust any proshop

Went into one-- had a guy tell me that I should buy 3 diffenent balls becasue it would give me better action on the back end-- owner came in and gave me three different balls - LOL

Only one pro shop actually watched me bowl-- Yes they recommended the BYTE over the IQ -- but the reviews I read the IQ --seemed to be the better value.

Everyball out there is the best-- just read each form and website, every you tube video is a strike-- all balls are perfect.

Hell - where my kid bowls (13)-  thier averages are all around 205-215.

Would love to see how the kids today would have faired back when the NEWEST Greatest was a Columbia Plastic White Dot or even better an AMF Voit-- LOL-- probably couldn't break a deuce!

I think I am just going to buy my old Blue Hammer shoot for the 5th board and make all my spares.  Average will be back up to 190 in a few weeks-- Heck -- just a league not a PBA tourney!

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Re: Need advise on bowling balls
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2014, 10:00:05 AM »
First off thank you for the advise and keep it coming.

Went to 6 proshops-- all I learned is that bowling has become too confusing and you can't trust any proshop

Went into one-- had a guy tell me that I should buy 3 diffenent balls becasue it would give me better action on the back end-- owner came in and gave me three different balls - LOL

Only one pro shop actually watched me bowl-- Yes they recommended the BYTE over the IQ -- but the reviews I read the IQ --seemed to be the better value.

Everyball out there is the best-- just read each form and website, every you tube video is a strike-- all balls are perfect.

Hell - where my kid bowls (13)-  thier averages are all around 205-215.

Would love to see how the kids today would have faired back when the NEWEST Greatest was a Columbia Plastic White Dot or even better an AMF Voit-- LOL-- probably couldn't break a deuce!

I think I am just going to buy my old Blue Hammer shoot for the 5th board and make all my spares.  Average will be back up to 190 in a few weeks-- Heck -- just a league not a PBA tourney!

Lol I can agree that some shops are a little over the top and you also have to be aware of the brand the shop is representing. If you go into a brunswick shop, they are going to lean you towards a brunswick ball. The best thing is to have a ball in mind. There is so much information out there, there is no reason why a customer can't have a general idea as to what to buy.

To be honest, the Byte is more of a cracker THS or specialty sport pattern piece. It is going to make you move deeper in on THS as a stroker. The Fusion will read and roll a bit heavier and not be as flippy which will keep you in the track longer.

Or storm does make 2 very good urethanes. Lol!
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Re: Need advise on bowling balls
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2014, 10:42:16 AM »
LOL-- AAAHH Urethane-- grip it and rip it--

After throwing the Ebonite Source for about 20 games -- I relized that I kept coming up light and leaving the 1-2-4-8-- so just stood 2 boards right and threw it a little slower 15mph to get a better pocket hit-- did throw a 675 one night.  But also relized that if the ball was drill to be more aggressive-- which might have happened if the pro shop owner watched me I would get better action and higher scores.

I am simple-- I am comfortable throwing 16- 16.5 mph,  I like throwing between the first and second arrow and watching the ball drive through the 8 and either tapping out the ten or on a clean pocket shot having the 6 drive out the ten-- do have a tendency to leave occasional 5 when the ball deflects.

There is just so much information I am truly baffled-- I figure a polished ball will get me further down the lane-- a 1500 Grit ball will give me better back end and Asymetrical ball will give me  the energy I need since I am throwing low to average speed.

So if you go on Bowlingball.com or Buddy.com I have my choice of 3000 balls--only kidding-- So from what the pro said with the Byte-  I agree with you more of a special line is required

If the Fusion rolls more consistent down the lane and can still give me the energy required to get better action when I hit the pocket -- might be the way to go.

If my terminology is wrong == sorry best way i know how to explain what I am looking for

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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2014, 11:19:33 AM »
Since your just getting back into bowling after 20 yrs, your basically a beginner.

Don't worry about the high end balls, Save yourself some money just get about any mid performance level ball.

At your current average level don't be worrying about layouts. Just Get a basic roll drilling on the ball (and Don't go in and say "I want it to go long and snap hard."). Something that won't get you in trouble.

If they can get a PAP off whatever ball your using now great, if not it's not a deal breaker.

The main thing is get the fit right first and then get out on the lanes, have some fun and get your consistency up.


here's a interesting video to watch
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Re: Need advise on bowling balls
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2014, 12:01:33 PM »
LOL-- AAAHH Urethane-- grip it and rip it--

After throwing the Ebonite Source for about 20 games -- I relized that I kept coming up light and leaving the 1-2-4-8-- so just stood 2 boards right and threw it a little slower 15mph to get a better pocket hit-- did throw a 675 one night.  But also relized that if the ball was drill to be more aggressive-- which might have happened if the pro shop owner watched me I would get better action and higher scores.

I am simple-- I am comfortable throwing 16- 16.5 mph,  I like throwing between the first and second arrow and watching the ball drive through the 8 and either tapping out the ten or on a clean pocket shot having the 6 drive out the ten-- do have a tendency to leave occasional 5 when the ball deflects.

There is just so much information I am truly baffled-- I figure a polished ball will get me further down the lane-- a 1500 Grit ball will give me better back end and Asymetrical ball will give me  the energy I need since I am throwing low to average speed.

So if you go on Bowlingball.com or Buddy.com I have my choice of 3000 balls--only kidding-- So from what the pro said with the Byte-  I agree with you more of a special line is required

If the Fusion rolls more consistent down the lane and can still give me the energy required to get better action when I hit the pocket -- might be the way to go.

If my terminology is wrong == sorry best way i know how to explain what I am looking for

No worries about terminology. Just continue to learn and grow with sport and take what you can. But my opinion is the Fusion would be perfect for you
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Re: Need advise on bowling balls
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2014, 12:29:09 PM »
Thank you - to the last two - responses-  I am starting to feel smarter-- my wife wil not agree but that's because I want her to think I am dumb-- less house work!

The video was perfect -- so really the game has not changed at all-- I I throw the ball at the same mark and hit it 80% of the time I give myself a chance to strike

So go with the fusion-- 4X2X4 house layout-basic, one inch below the dot= sharpen curve or one inch above the in for smoother arc action?

Thats it right -- don't need PAP-or RG or MJSKJDIIO--LOL

and most importantly have fun!

had fun the other night-- made the 2-4-10 and 6-7-10-- Yes there are people out there who still enjoy making spares-- used an original Storm Deuce

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Re: Need advise on bowling balls
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2014, 12:51:05 PM »
I'm going to tell you what the pro shop guy won't.  Save fifty bucks and drill a Hy-Road or even a Hot Line ball.  At 164 you have developed the consistency to be able to tell the difference.

I agree 110%. Save that money and reinvest it in coaching then practice after the coaching.

League patterns are designed so scores are high. A high performance ball is typically too strong for most bowlers on a THS- typical house shot.

I would second the Hy-road, or even the IQ Tour solid. Both are awesome, and proven to work well with many styles of bowlers. That is why they have remained in Storm's line for so long.


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Re: Need advise on bowling balls
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2014, 01:00:15 PM »
I'm going to tell you what the pro shop guy won't.  Save fifty bucks and drill a Hy-Road or even a Hot Line ball.  At 164 you have developed the consistency to be able to tell the difference.

I agree 110%. Save that money and reinvest it in coaching then practice after the coaching.

League patterns are designed so scores are high. A high performance ball is typically too strong for most bowlers on a THS- typical house shot.

I would second the Hy-road, or even the IQ Tour solid. Both are awesome, and proven to work well with many styles of bowlers. That is why they have remained in Storm's line for so long.

But the tour solid is an HP......
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2014, 01:02:46 PM »
Aside from that the Tour pieces are more designed for THS than the Hyroad and will keep him where he wants to be. And it's only 20 bucks more...... I don't see your guys argument. The Hyroad is n awesome sport pattern ball but THS there are better options. Trust, I have a case of Hyroads.
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Re: Need advise on bowling balls
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2014, 01:02:56 PM »
I'm going to tell you what the pro shop guy won't.  Save fifty bucks and drill a Hy-Road or even a Hot Line ball.  At 164 you have developed the consistency to be able to tell the difference.

I agree 110%. Save that money and reinvest it in coaching then practice after the coaching.

League patterns are designed so scores are high. A high performance ball is typically too strong for most bowlers on a THS- typical house shot.

I would second the Hy-road, or even the IQ Tour solid. Both are awesome, and proven to work well with many styles of bowlers. That is why they have remained in Storm's line for so long.


I also agree.  The Hy-Road is a great ball and it's versatile.  I recently have replaced my old Hy-Road with the Motiv Sigma Sting and I think it's even better.  Either way, as the others have said look towards something along those lines and save the cash to use in practice and coaching.  It'll only help you become even better.
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2014, 01:21:47 PM »
If you love the urethane reaction, look at the Pitch Black. It is a smooth rolling piece that will keep you around 5 on "most" house shots. If you are looking for a reactive reaction with more "pop" down lane, but not break the bank, the HyRoad gets my vote. The Fusion is a great piece, but I do not think you will fully benefit from it bowling only on house. If you are looking to save a few more bucks, the UpRoar is a great option. Especially when you feed it to the friction. There are plenty of great choices to chose from. If you need any assistance, feel free to PM me. Good luck!