Author Topic: Pros in local tournaments? (Read 11683 times)

n00dlejester · « **on:** April 13, 2008, 11:37:24 PM »

So yesterday I bowled in the NJ State Tournament, and lo and behold Parker Bohn III was there for the 9:00AM singles/doubles squad, and the 12:30PM 5-man team squad. So we start the day bowling doubles, and the first game he fired a 300. He was part of about 10 brackets and obviously destroyed anybody. Because of this people near my pairs (I was on 3-4) were saying that having a pro is a non-PBA event is just not fair. One guy made the analogy that "it's like having Ryan Howard playing for the high school varsity team."

I personally think having pros in local events is fine. The talent gap between the pros and the locals (at least on a THS, which this tournament was) is nowhere near the talent gap between local and pro baseball players. And it was a lot of fun watching him tear it up on a THS (he shot 780 for doubles, and a low 7 for singles). What are your thoughts on all this?

notgoodenuf · « **Reply #46 on:** April 14, 2008, 05:13:18 PM »

i just bowled the Minnesota State tourny this weekend. someone has shot2389 scratch, and someone else was over 2400 scratch....abvioulsy for all events. you don't have to be a professional to put up insane numbers and compete and win. in those 20 plus years Parker Bohn has bowled the N.J. state tourny, how many has he actually won? i am just guessing, but probably not to many. hes just out bowling like everyone else.....let'em bowl and go beat him....just my 2 cents.

BeansProShop · « **Reply #47 on:** April 14, 2008, 08:15:39 PM »

I said it once and I will say it again....

Why should somebody that decides to join a membership not be allowed to bowl???

What makes the guy who averages 240 in league but doesn't have a card less qualified than than the 206 average bowler that chooses to pay a membership to a club? A true professional gets paid for playing their sport. Not paying dues to be a member..

Think about it.

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Hogsharley · « **Reply #48 on:** April 14, 2008, 08:31:14 PM »

Most local tourney's around me have a PBA clause. They all differ slighlty. It's levels the playing field. Here's a couple;

http://www.oldschooltournaments.com/

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Eligibility - Any man or woman can bowl with the exception of

PBA National Champions and Current Exempt PBA members.

Bowlers that have participated In A PBA Event Or Regional PBA Event during

the past 12 months are mandated into the over division. Average rule

applies to all others.

http://www.bowling300.com/nabioflongisland/events.htm

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Open to anyone averaging 220 or under, who has never been a PBA Member.
Must be 20 years of age to participate in the Tournament.
$10 Annual Membership Fee

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tenpin477 · « **Reply #49 on:** April 14, 2008, 08:54:04 PM »

Local tournaments and State Tournaments are different though.

nextbowler · « **Reply #50 on:** April 14, 2008, 10:03:14 PM »

All homilies aside, I don't understand the difference between competing and
trying to win. MAJM--I played college football and coached high school base-
ball in a great league for 16 years. I am sure that level is higher than
anything that you have competed in. Don't include any stupid bowling tourn-
aments you have bowled in--it rarely could compare.

Krakken · « **Reply #51 on:** April 15, 2008, 07:18:25 AM »

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I've had Mike Wolfe stomp me in brackets in our city tournament before, and I have no problem with it. He's a nice guy, fun to bowl with, and it's not like he's some kind of mystical, unbeatable force. He's just another bowler who happens to be more talented than 99% of us and makes a career out of it.

That is the point. Mike Wolfe is a nice guy, and so is PB3, however, they have no place in local City, and/or State tournaments. These events are and should be for the local bowlers.

They are better than 99% of us so they should be bowling with the other 1% in tourneys.

And they really shouldn't be stealing your money in the brackets. And that is what it is on a THS, stealing your money.

Dan Belcher · « **Reply #52 on:** April 15, 2008, 07:22:53 AM »

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I've had Mike Wolfe stomp me in brackets in our city tournament before, and I have no problem with it. He's a nice guy, fun to bowl with, and it's not like he's some kind of mystical, unbeatable force. He's just another bowler who happens to be more talented than 99% of us and makes a career out of it.

That is the point. Mike Wolfe is a nice guy, and so is PB3, however, they have no place in local City, and/or State tournaments. These events are and should be for the local bowlers.

They are better than 99% of us so they should be bowling with the other 1% in tourneys.

And they really shouldn't be stealing your money in the brackets. And that is what it is on a THS, stealing your money.

To be fair, I shot a higher game than Wolfe the first game to get paired with him, and then I backed it up with a 180 after I had trouble with my thumb swelling badly. Like I said, if he was literally unbeatable it'd be a different story. But he's not that much better than some of the best local guys. I sometimes would have a harder time beating Tony Lambert or Chris Hester than Wolfe, and they aren't PBA pros. They're just very talented bowlers as well.

jd1319 · « **Reply #53 on:** April 15, 2008, 07:25:14 AM »

I hope anybody who even remotely thinks a pro would enter a state tourny to make money because they aren't making enough money on tour was drunk when that thought entered their mind. Pro's entering those tourny's do it to bowl with friends, and to have no pressure fun. They are just regular guys, who have lots of friends who love to bowl, and they don't get the league opportunities afforded to us.

JOE FALCO · « **Reply #54 on:** April 15, 2008, 07:43:10 AM »

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I hope anybody who even remotely thinks a pro would enter a state tourny to make money because they aren't making enough money on tour was drunk when that thought entered their mind. Pro's entering those tourny's do it to bowl with friends, and to have no pressure fun. They are just regular guys, who have lots of friends who love to bowl, and they don't get the league opportunities afforded to us.

Why do they get in brackets?
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jd1319 · « **Reply #55 on:** April 15, 2008, 07:48:47 AM »

Fun. Brackets are just another way to spice up the game. Just like card games many people play. Just like all the beers people drink. Seriously, if anybody thinks that Parker Bohn would care about the $50 he just spent in practice after winning $150K? Many people gamble for the excitement, not the money.

n00dlejester · « **Reply #56 on:** April 15, 2008, 07:58:59 AM »

I join brackets for the thrill of victory and the despair of defeat. That, and it's a fun way to add more competitiveness to the game.

Dan Belcher · « **Reply #57 on:** April 15, 2008, 08:03:06 AM »

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I join brackets for the thrill of victory and the despair of defeat. That, and it's a fun way to add more competitiveness to the game.

Yep, I sure as hell don't do brackets to win money!

I managed to exactly break even on brackets during the city tournament, and also won about $20 off an actual jackpot for a 280 game. I didn't even win enough money to pay for the entry fee for the tournament. But at least it was some extra fun and extra competition.

Gazoo · « **Reply #58 on:** April 15, 2008, 08:05:25 AM »

We are talking about the state tournament here (where he lives), not the monthly local $40 buyin scratch tournament. Lets keep it real.

n00dlejester · « **Reply #59 on:** April 15, 2008, 08:09:06 AM »

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We are talking about the state tournament here (where he lives), not the monthly local $40 buyin scratch tournament. Lets keep it real.

The entry fee was $22 actually

The catch was you had to join both singles and doubles if you wanted to join.

9andaWiggle · « **Reply #60 on:** April 15, 2008, 08:32:59 AM »

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I hope anybody who even remotely thinks a pro would enter a state tourny to make money because they aren't making enough money on tour was drunk when that thought entered their mind. Pro's entering those tourny's do it to bowl with friends, and to have no pressure fun. They are just regular guys, who have lots of friends who love to bowl, and they don't get the league opportunities afforded to us.

I wasn't drunk, but never being on tour myself I don't have first hand knowledge. I've heard it can be tough to make it from a financial standpoint, seeing as how bowling pays a small fraction to our best Pro's in comparison to other professional athletes. I'm not saying that was the reason PB3 was bowling a local tourney, but I thought it could be a reason for some of the other guys who maybe aren't quite as successful, but still full-on PBA professionals.

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