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302efi

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So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« on: October 15, 2008, 01:36:40 PM »
...with handicap

How in the hell am I suppose to beat that ?


***10/20/08 Update***
I just received this response from USBC about handicap scores going over 300/900 handicap:

" Leagues have the ability to put a cap on handicap scores that would prevent any scores above 300 or 900 from being recorded.

Two years ago at the National convention, delegates voted against a proposal that would do the same thing in tournaments.

In short, leagues would be able to put in place such a rule at the leagues organizational meeting, however, a tournament director may not put such a rule in place "
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302efi

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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #121 on: October 18, 2008, 12:34:42 PM »
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AHHHHHHH!  Down to the root of the problem.....lots of money at stake....why didn't you say so!

Inevitably there will always a new bowler...who gets a new ball, a new drilling that fits his hand, a lesson on where to stand and he will shoot lights out....and maybe continue for the rest of the season!

Again your team being in second had nothing to do with this guys handicap in your particular match him.  He could have shot his same score with a perfectly FAIR(adjusted to his new level immediately) and he would have WIPED you out that night in a handicap league and frankly he deserved to!  It was after all....his career night!  So far!

REgards,

Luckylefty


Your partly correct, but still missing the big picture. Considering the money we pay a week to bowl, there is no reason someone should be given a chance to shoot higher then someone else, no matter avgs or handicaps.

Its not about him or anyone else "having a good night". Thats fine and dandy. As I'd said for the 1,000,000 time, it is unfair that he or anyone else be allowed to shoot over the max of what someone else can attain.

LL, even if I would have put together 3 perfect games and a perfect 900 set, I would have lost the match. How can someone achevie "perfection" and lose ?
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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #122 on: October 18, 2008, 12:46:23 PM »
The whole handicap thing is to "level the field" which it does to a certain level,  there is never going to be a perfect system.  Last year in the rolloff I shot 269 the second game(215 average) and lost to a guy who has a 185 average and slopped over pins to shoot a 250 game and beat me.  Was I pissed at the time, yeah, but when it was all said and done that one game gave him a whopping 590 series and they didn't win squat.  If people are worried about handicap then inquire around your area and find a scratch league, that's what I did and I coundn't be happier.  You shoot what you shoot and there is no crying about averages.
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302efi

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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #123 on: October 20, 2008, 03:21:33 AM »
Ok first update from USBC:


"Thank you for contacting United States Bowling Congress Headquarters.

Your e-mail is important to us.  If the Bowling Information Center is unable to answer your inquiry, it will be referred to the appropriate area for response.

If you require immediate assistance, please feel free to contact us at 800-514-BOWL (2695)  extension 3161 during regular business hours of 8:00 am to 4:30 pm, Monday through Friday, central standard time.

Bowl with US"

So, in short, nothing yet ..lol

Will keep this updated !

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LuckyLefty

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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #124 on: October 20, 2008, 09:16:05 AM »
I really do get the point.  

Maybe the handicap should only take one to 300....900 per game....as you have suggested.

But again....you started off dissatisfied cause you got beat and this could be a factor over the season...and you also are bowling for big money and do not want the chance of him winning the $50,000 because he got a 921 and maybe could do so again in the future.  I do understand.  Again....it was his career night (so far) and he deserved to wipe you out on a very good and respectable night for you.

He may be sandbagging a tinch but this will be rectified quickly...as the season progresses.  But maybe not quickly enough...

I've had some super scores handicap and won a big money handicap league with some super horses in the past.  So I do understand the complete scenario....
Don't think I ever had a plus 900 but would have liked to!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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302efi

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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #125 on: October 20, 2008, 02:17:13 PM »
UPDATED in the first post
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stormed1

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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #126 on: October 20, 2008, 03:21:14 PM »
We have several leagues in the area that have now put a scoring cap in.If you shoot over 300 with cap you still only get 300 for the pots. Over the years i have lost hundreds of games to guys having a "career" night or game. Was a pissed off at the time - yes but in retrospect it was their night nad not mine. I also had nights where someone shot 300 and i won cause they were not in the pots
All that being said I had a night like that saturday and it embarasses me, I shot 331 with cap 279 + 52 ( averaging 162). I've had a horriblew start to the year with my spare shooting and it killing me.
I used to love the way they ran leagues when i lived in ROCKFORD. All the men's leagues were scratch with a team average limit
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Re: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....***USBC Update***
« Reply #127 on: October 27, 2008, 07:31:46 AM »
302 I haven't seen an update about how your league meeting went to discuss this issue. Was just curious.
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