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JOE FALCO

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Winter league Lineage fees!
« on: August 16, 2007, 12:30:48 PM »
I've been bowling in an AMF house in Raleigh NC on Wednesday night league for the last 6 years. The manager of the house called me today to advise that line fees would be $9 and will increase in November (when new scoring system is installed) to $9.35.

Is this the going rate for leagues?

I always said that things like this is what's killing bowling .. I'm thinking seriously of cutting down my 4 leagues per week this year!

ON EDIT! Cutting down on leagues will certainly cut down the number of balls I buy!
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Re: Winter league Lineage fees!
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2007, 08:35:34 PM »
Our lineage is going up from $9 to $11 this fall!! How is that for a Thanks for bowling league at Plano Super Bowl??

WE are gonna have to raise the rate to at least $16 dollars per bwoler per night to have any prize money at all..
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Re: Winter league Lineage fees!
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2007, 08:35:59 PM »
Man, my league fees are now 10.00 in Scranton, PA here.
They were 9.50 last season! My center's single game fee
is 4.00 a game. I bowl for free because I work there,
but still, this is gonna keep getting higher and higher
as the years go on. I see it now..
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Re: Winter league Lineage fees!
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2007, 08:37:21 PM »
Sounds like a typical AMF house, Joe.  It's all about the money with them.  I've worked for them for 4 years, and I've seen them find new and creative ways to royally screw league bowlers at every turn.

Regional management is always raising the league lineage knowing full well that the league will always paint the rise in league fees to "increased prize fund".

I bowl at an independent center in Rocky Mount.  It's not much better, but it is better.
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Re: Winter league Lineage fees!
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2007, 09:08:48 PM »
I guess that it is all what the market will bear. I paid $16 per night for league last season and all through the summer. I pay $5 per hour or $1.25 per game for open bowling on Sunday mornings and I think that they charge $2.50 per game during the peak times. No center here in Tucson could get away with charging $4.00 per game and still be financially viable.
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Re: Winter league Lineage fees!
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2007, 09:39:34 PM »
Last year we paid $6.00 for lineage and $12.00 a week. There has been no mention of the lineage going up this year, but we are trying to bring up the weekly fees to $15.00 so there is more money in the prize fund.
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Re: Winter league Lineage fees!
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2007, 09:41:16 PM »
I don't know the breakdown of lineage vs prize fund, but here is what we are paying this summer

Monday Sport Trios 4 games $28/week going up to $30
Tuesday Prime Time Classic $25/week in winter it is a Men's only league
Wednesday NBAC League $23/week my guess is going to $24 in the winter
Sunday Adult/Jr League $9/week I don't know if it will go up or not for Winter
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Re: Winter league Lineage fees!
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2007, 09:42:11 PM »
i pay $11 a week for my mixed handicap league. my men's scratch league is $15 a week.
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JOE FALCO

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Re: Winter league Lineage fees!
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2007, 09:49:21 PM »
GREG .. just for clarification .. is that your weekly fee or how much the line fees are?
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Re: Winter league Lineage fees!
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2007, 10:07:20 PM »
Monday night 5 man league in local house (20 minutes west of me): $18 a week, about $11.50 in lineage a night.

Wednesday night singles league in house closer to work (15 minutes east of work): $25 a week, $12.50 in lineage a night.

If I could bowl for $15-$17 a week in houses and have the house only get $8-$9 a night in lineage, I'd be bowling more often. You gotta love the East Coast...

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Re: Winter league Lineage fees!
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2007, 10:24:27 PM »
Our lineage went up to 10.50 for my Men's Handicap league.  We also voted to pay 20 a week for 32 weeks, and bowl 35.  (The other three weeks will come out of our prize fund.)  It gives us a prize fund for a 16 team league of 21,450.  I sometimes wonder why we bother with prize funds, why not just pay the lineage and bowl for pride?    The real money is in the pot games anyhow!
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Re: Winter league Lineage fees!
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2007, 10:41:16 PM »
My lineage was $13.40 last year. I pay $35 a week to bowl. The last 2 weeks of 36 are free. Whoppee!
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Re: Winter league Lineage fees!
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2007, 10:56:07 PM »
we had to pay $16 for lineage last year....and $13 a week.  talk about sucking balls.
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Re: Winter league Lineage fees!
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2007, 07:33:58 AM »
OMGOD - .35 a league, 1.40 a week for 4 leagues how could I stand the financial strain. I wouldn't be able to afford to spend $200 a month on bowling balls.

League lineage fees are $9.50 to $11.00 around here depending on how new the house is.

You old cheapskates kill me. If .35 a week makes or breaks you then you shouldnt be bowling in the first place.
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JOE FALCO

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Re: Winter league Lineage fees!
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2007, 07:37:13 AM »
WOW! I'm shocked at these prices for league bowlers! I slept on this last night and concluded that I was going to give the game up (at least) for one winter. After hearing what some of you are paying for a line of bowling I'm POSITIVE I'm leaning towards stopping.

My problem is commitment. I've told at least 3 of the four teams I would bowl. I won't let them down .. but .. this will be my last season. Sure I can make excuses for the costs .. but as long as we keep paying .. they will ask for more!

I just put some numbers together and I was wondering what I was doing wrong:

$9   per bowler each league
x 4 bowlers per team
$36  per team
x 16 number of teams in league
$576 league lineage per night
x 36 number of commited weeks (paid bowl or no bowl)
$20,736 for one league season

Not sure how many leagues each house has but I'll minimize and say 7 (out of 7 days). That would be $150,000 +/- committed from leagues during the winter season! From what I hear the CENTERS are not making money from leagues so this must be a DROP IN THE BUCKET when compared to their over all income!

Unless we want to continue to get TAKING .. we need action as the UNIONS would do .. STOP!


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